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First 1000km Maintainence, Valve Check?

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Well in the month or so I have had my Honda CBR 250, I have put 1000km on it.Now it is time to do my first maintainence and valve check, according to maintence book.

The closest 3 Authorized Honda Dealers near my house are. Markham Power Sports, Kahuna and Motoretta.

I called all 3 places and got 3 different quotes.

Markham Power Sport said $175 + hst for maintainence and if I want valves done, it'll be $475. The did however say, I can book my appointment for regular maintenance and tech can tell by listen to my bike, If it needs valves done or not.

Kahuna said $214 regular and 340 w/ valves.

And Motoretta said $220 w/ vavles.

Is valve check necessary at 1000k?

Has anyone had experience w/ any of these dealerships? If I don't do my valves will it void warrenty?

Right not I am leaning towards motoretta, since its the cheap for w/ valves but I can't find any reviews for them.What do you guys think I should do.
 
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Valve check is at 10,000 km not 1000 km. 1000 km is an oil change, check for loose bolts, torque triple tree nut, check chain tension and tire pressure. Do it yourself. Even at 10K you can still use a trained ear to tell if you need valves adjusted. Don't waste your money.
 
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Contact Speedworx. They run the CBR250 racing program for Honda Canada. They know these bikes and can sort you out.

Speedworx:
Unit 10
Heritage Road
Markham, Ont
416-225-5000

Fawaz@racer5.ca
speedworxsuperbike.com
 
i would avoid Markham Power Sport solely on the fact that they tried to offer you a valve job at 1,000kms. clearly they tried to rip you off by trying you sell you something you don't need.
 
i had to do the First Service and Value Adjustment for my CBR250 too. I think it's something recommended by the manufacturer
if you plan on selling you bike in the future it's good to show the buyer you followed the manufacturer recommendation.
i got mine done at Sturgess Cycle tax and everything comes up to $310, i had to leave my bike there overnight:D
 
Don't do kahuna either. They charged me for valves on my first 1000km and finished all the work on my bike in less than half an hour (I.e.when I had a 250)

obviously I got ripped off... Charging me for something they didn't do. Don't go to kahuna, they will rip you off.
 
rakkaus said:
i had to do the First Service and Value Adjustment for my CBR250 too. I think it's something recommended by the manufacturer
if you plan on selling you bike in the future it's good to show the buyer you followed the manufacturer recommendation.
i got mine done at Sturgess Cycle tax and everything comes up to $310, i had to leave my bike there overnight:D
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You will never recover that $300 from a feature buyer, just so you know. If you want to do it because you have nightmares about the bike suddenly exploding then go ahead, other than that save your money. ;)
 
johnnie_c said:
Don't do kahuna either. They charged me for valves on my first 1000km and finished all the work on my bike in less than half an hour (I.e.when I had a 250)

obviously I got ripped off... Charging me for something they didn't do. Don't go to kahuna, they will rip you off.
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How much did Kahuna charge you , if you remember?
 
DemonPig said:
You will never recover that $300 from a feature buyer, just so you know. If you want to do it because you have nightmares about the bike suddenly exploding then go ahead, other than that save your money. ;)
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I thought first service should always be done at a dealer to prevent them using it as an excuse to deny a warranty claim down the line?
 
when i had my cbr250ra i did first service. After that oil change ever approx 4000km. I did not get the valve check done until around
14500km. They were still in spec. The first valve inspection on my now Ninja 650 and Honda Ruckus is not until 24000km (per the manual)
 
Sig_Girl said:
Is valve check necessary at 1000k?
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I thought you said you checked the owners manual?

At 1k says to:

Check valves.
Change oil and oil filter.
Check engine idle.
Check brakes.
Check chain.
Check clutch.
Check nuts, bolts, fasteners.
Check steering head bearings.

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It says to retain your full Honda warranty it should be done by someone "qualified". Doesn't mean it has to be the dealer, but if joe blow neighbour does your valve inspection (and adjustment if necessary) I could see it being a problem if you ran into engine problems prior to the 24k inspection.
 
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chiefswallow said:
I thought you said you checked the owners manual?

At 1k says to:

Check valves.
Change oil and oil filter.
Check engine idle.
Check brakes.
Check chain.
Check clutch.
Check nuts, bolts, fasteners.
Check steering head bearings.

It says to retain your full Honda warranty it should be done by someone "qualified". Doesn't mean it has to be the dealer, but if joe blow neighbour does your valve inspection (and adjustment if necessary) I could see it being a problem if you ran into engine problems prior to the 24k inspection.
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There's a ton of service items that are listed as R or I every so often regardless of mileage and they aren't actually necessary, like the air filter. I don't take these maintenance schedules as gospel. Perhaps that 1000km valve check could reveal something going wrong early with the engine, but the chance of that is maybe 0.001%? so I wouldn't call it necessary.
 
gmang35 said:
I know that. Hence why I said how can a trained ear hear a tight valve.
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If the valves are loose they MAY tick, which a trained ear MIGHT hear.
If the valves are tight they just burn the seat and tulip... which no one could hear... till compression is leaking past the exhaust valve.

Feel free to play russian roulette with your own warranty because you think you know more than the engineers that built your bike... but the problem is you are wrong. That is obvious.
 
bitzz said:
If the valves are loose they MAY tick, which a trained ear MIGHT hear.
If the valves are tight they just burn the seat and tulip... which no one could hear... till compression is leaking past the exhaust valve.

Feel free to play russian roulette with your own warranty because you think you know more than the engineers that built your bike... but the problem is you are wrong. That is obvious.
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He said what you said! Are you wrong too?
 
Not sure why but many of the new Honda bikes (CBR500 for example) have the first Valve Check listed at 1,000 kms. It seems awfully early. That being said it's important to follow their guide in case anything goes wrong in the future.

As far as who to take it to, I don't have a lot of experience with the GTA dealers but I'd avoid the one that suggested their Mechanic could "listen" to the valves. Given they quoted the highest price with the valve check I'm guessing the mechanic will definitely hear something that needs to be adjusted.
 
My understanding of the earlier check for valves is it means less work in the factory and allows higher tolerance to ship the product. This passes the Quality Aussurance cost to the buyer. In turn makes the product appear cheaper at list price and also keeps dealers busy. A winning combination for the manufacturer.

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