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Filtering - what was your outcome?
- Thread starter EC2010
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Insurance hike, too? Dunno. My last ticket was $40 but I'd happily pay $400 if it meant to rise in insurance.
vkhamphi
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Toronto's BMWs were trial only. Don't think any are around anymore.
TPS used to have BMW K75s. Don't know if they still do but I used to see them in for service, at Bavarian Motorsports and McBride, all the time.
Julz
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But when they do stupid ***** they have their cherries on at least. What I saw they'll go on the shoulder when traffic is at a stop then merged with traffic when it started moving again then move to the shoulder again when it's a stand still....unless they're in an emergency call/situation as far as I know they must abide to the rule of the road.油井緋色;1998315 said:
See the survey on this.
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...FINITIVE-Non-Highway-Traffic-Filtering-Survey
Vast majority seem to not get tickets (filtering in stopped traffic and not on the highly, which is not the same thing as lane splitting in moving traffic).
If you have a relevant experience, please add it to the survey because it helps everyone get a clear picture of the real world implications of this.
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...FINITIVE-Non-Highway-Traffic-Filtering-Survey
Vast majority seem to not get tickets (filtering in stopped traffic and not on the highly, which is not the same thing as lane splitting in moving traffic).
If you have a relevant experience, please add it to the survey because it helps everyone get a clear picture of the real world implications of this.
Mr.Azim
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This is an inconclusive poll. And considering only 17 people have replied, and only 4 of which did it in front of police.... saying a "vast majority" seem to not get tickets is a huge over statement.
Doing it regularly doesn't mean police where there to witness it. Even the 4 who did it in front of police likely weren't the center of attention at the time.
It doesn't conclude on the legality of lane filtering/splitting either. It only shares people's experiences, which can't be validated as being true either.
Where do you live that you see cops use their cherries to do stupid ****? I see stupid **** by cops daily without their lights on. Everything from running reds to illegal turns to speeding. Think I've seen a cruiser use turns signals maybe 3 times in my whole life. Took a driving course with an instructor that teaches police. He said the police are the worst drivers on the road because they think they can do whatever they want (and usually they can). I've even seen cops make other people run red lights but sitting behind them honking until the person goes through. No lights in that case, either.
Agreed that it's not statistically accurate to high levels with the current number of responses and that it's too early to draw a definite conclusion. If you can help get more people to fill it out, that'll help get us all a better answer and benefit the forum.
However even the 17 responses are a better indication than we had before because they don't just represent 17 individual events of filtering. Each of those respondents has likely filtered anywhere from a few times to a few hundred times, so this is actually representative of a much larger data set than 17. Among all those filtering events (likely well over 300), we have only 3 reports of a fine. The needle seems to be leaning decidedly towards the "low risk" direction.
I'm a Director of Pricing and Analytics in telecom so I work with large, complex and often incomplete datasets all the time. Frequently the best insights don't come from the simple summaries of data points, they come from teasing the implied metadata out (aka, the hidden data behind the visible data).
You're also right that it doesn't conclude on the legality, but that was neither the topic of the survey nor this thread. However the fact that it is based on peoples' experience makes it no more valid or invalid than the Canadian census, or most marketing research (a multi-billion dollar per year industry). In all these cases, people can lie but they're still the best we have.
All stats discussions aside, I agree with you 100% that the cake's not fully baked yet lol. Hopefully all it needs is time...
However even the 17 responses are a better indication than we had before because they don't just represent 17 individual events of filtering. Each of those respondents has likely filtered anywhere from a few times to a few hundred times, so this is actually representative of a much larger data set than 17. Among all those filtering events (likely well over 300), we have only 3 reports of a fine. The needle seems to be leaning decidedly towards the "low risk" direction.
I'm a Director of Pricing and Analytics in telecom so I work with large, complex and often incomplete datasets all the time. Frequently the best insights don't come from the simple summaries of data points, they come from teasing the implied metadata out (aka, the hidden data behind the visible data).
You're also right that it doesn't conclude on the legality, but that was neither the topic of the survey nor this thread. However the fact that it is based on peoples' experience makes it no more valid or invalid than the Canadian census, or most marketing research (a multi-billion dollar per year industry). In all these cases, people can lie but they're still the best we have.
All stats discussions aside, I agree with you 100% that the cake's not fully baked yet lol. Hopefully all it needs is time...
mindactivated
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Kiloohm;1997775[B said:
Yes you're allowed to do this, but beware of door prizes, pedestrians, and jerks sitting in traffic who think you're not allowed to do this. The parked cars are not part of "traffic", since they're not "moving" or "operating".
Sometimes you're able to move faster through heavy traffic during off peak rush hour than during rush hour (with extra lanes) since those parked cars give you a way out.
espro
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Every car driver I've spoken to about filtering comes up with a handful of derogatory words to describe what they think of motorcyclists filtering. They literally want everyone else to suffer along with them.
J & P tow truck drivers, which the city gets to tow people on St. Clair after 4pm, intentionally block me all the time. Have had a few nearly push me into the parked cars as they pulled out to block me. Even when both lanes free up and I'm not on my bike they sit on the line to block both lanes so no one can get around them. No idea why they drive like such asshats.
I see cabbles do that all the time too; blocking both lanes. Seems like they want to take advantage of whichever lane moves faster and think that it's some sort of a race.
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