Fight or Flight

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I think terminal illness is a different story than the above mentioned. Yes everyone eventually dies but if you are in a sound mind I fully believe you should have the right to die with dignity.

Mental issues and capacity is not what we are discussing here. Maybe we can affect change for the RTD, if and when we get a chance to.

Latimer's case was a hard one, but I do believe he did the "more correct" thing with his daughter. PAIN and the quality of life guided his actions, and I shudder at how hard that morning must have been.
 
Everyone always gets into the discussion and uproar about ending life, what about all those ways of artificially extending our lives past our 'best before' date?

It's ok to keep grandma hooked up to the machine so she can be a vegetable another 3 months before it's over?
 
meme said:
I think terminal illness is a different story than the above mentioned. Yes everyone eventually dies but if you are in a sound mind I fully believe you should have the right to die with dignity.

Mental issues and capacity is not what we are discussing here. Maybe we can affect change for the RTD, if and when we get a chance to.

Latimer's case was a hard one, but I do believe he did the "more correct" thing with his daughter. PAIN and the quality of life guided his actions, and I shudder at how hard that morning must have been.
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funny, i was thinking of Lattimer while writing my post.
I think i would have done the same.
 
Sativa Quemador said:
i think if you want to die, you have that right.

unfortunately, this opens the doors for people dealing with depression and other mental issues.
and yet again for people that cant decide for themselves. ( severe autism / retardation/ you name it. )

obviously this thread isnt going to decide what the law should or shouldnt be.
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Well that's a big can of worms you open up, but unfortunately as Paul kind of intimates above, if you legislate this thing to death (pardon pun) it will never work, no one will get the relief they seek. There has to be some checks and balances built in, but they have to be sensible. Besides, some severe depressions may manifest as just as debilitating as a brain tumour or such in real life (quality of life) terms.
 
jc100 said:
Well that's a big can of worms you open up, but unfortunately as Paul kind of intimates above, if you legislate this thing to death (pardon pun) it will never work, no one will get the relief they seek. There has to be some checks and balances built in, but they have to be sensible. Besides, some severe depressions may manifest as just as debilitating as a brain tumour or such in real life (quality of life) terms.
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find another that wants to die, and hit each others button ?
 
Slim Jim said:
Very true, so even if we had RTD legislation, then the problem would be the insurance companies. We all know those scum look for any excuse to refuse payouts.
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Uh, the problem is that some people are worth more dead than alive, but nothing's wrong with them. You don't think that some people wouldn't kill themselves to set up their families? You don't think that some families would warp and twist a member to set them up?
 
Baggsy said:
Uh, the problem is that some people are worth more dead than alive, but nothing's wrong with them. You don't think that some people wouldn't kill themselves to set up their families? You don't think that some families would warp and twist a member to set them up?
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If it was the same way it is in Oregon, you have to be diagnosed with a life threatening illness and have no more then 6 months to live.
 
LoneRonin said:
Go watch the "Weed" documentaries with Dr. Sanjay Gupta on Youtube.
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I get news briefs from scientific journals. There's not a lot of buzz (more puns) about this at all. Pain relief is true, works well. Wonder how many would still be in favour though if the active component was put in pill form.
 
jc100 said:
I get news briefs from scientific journals. There's not a lot of buzz (more puns) about this at all. Pain relief is true, works well. Wonder how many would still be in favour though if the active component was put in pill form.
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yea its great pain meds, with benefits for increasing appetite, for long term but the side effects that stoners enjoy can be un-nerving in allot for allot a patients. They don't recommend THC pills for patients without prior "experience" we explored this option for my Mother but it wasn't recommended. Plus there are far better although pain control meds.
 
Two50noob said:
yea its great pain meds, with benefits for increasing appetite, for long term but the side effects that stoners enjoy can be un-nerving in allot for allot a patients. They don't recommend THC pills for patients without prior "experience" we explored this option for my Mother but it wasn't recommended. Plus there are far better although pain control meds.
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if you watch the documentary they developed a strain with only 1% THC and 30-40% CBD, that's the cannabinoid that has more medicinal properties and less psychoactive ones.

its best for children or people who aren't looking for the "high"
 
LoneRonin said:
if you watch the documentary they developed a strain with only 1% THC and 30-40% CBD, that's the cannabinoid that has more medicinal properties and less psychoactive ones.

its best for children or people who aren't looking for the "high"
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Im aware I keep myself apprised of the latest from journals. Cannabinods have their uses they just arn't a Panacea and there are far more effective medications available especially in the pain department. Not to mention as at least 1 other person has pointed out that the enthusiasm from weed enthusiasts and the Alt med crowd has far out striped the medical evidence available for its efficacy. Not to mention is safety(long term) when smoked is often vastly overstated.

That being said I continue to support its use in medicine just like any compound or treatment as long as proper clinical trials and double blind studies are done to measure its effectiveness. I also support a broader legalization of it although i don't smoke it.
 
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Pfff, pot is for potheads. I prefer opiates. Bring on the morphine...
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