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max_power said:
If you don't care about the safety of your passenger, simply don't take one. If you want to buy a cheap helmet, look into the cheaper Bell, HJC, Scorpian, Icon helmets.

It boggles my mind that you would even consider that brand.
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What kind of nonsense is that? If it passed the test, it's safe. If it's not as comfortable or quiet as some more expensive helmets, tough $&@!, tell your passenger to buy their own helmets.
It boggles my mind that you think your statement is true.


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if it's DOT rated only....all of them deserve to be sub $100 anyways...SNELL/ ECE rated??? that's a different animal altogether..

really for an Shoei or arai other than key safety features, all you are really paying for is the name...

'cause I bet even for that $60 helmet, you'll put on 10 of them to make sure the one you are buying "fits" you,I'm sure!
 
Iceman said:
What kind of nonsense is that? If it passed the test, it's safe. If it's not as comfortable or quiet as some more expensive helmets, tough $&@!, tell your passenger to buy their own helmets.
It boggles my mind that you think your statement is true.
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Unlike others, I actually care about the safety of my passenger. My girlfriend rides with me from time to time and I bought her a Shoei Qwest. If you won't ride in a $60 helmet, why should your passenger?
 
max_power said:
Unlike others, I actually care about the safety of my passenger. My girlfriend rides with me from time to time and I bought her a Shoei Qwest. If you won't ride in a $60 helmet, why should your passenger?
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I don't ride in a $60 helmet because I ride constantly. For my money, I want a quiet, comfortable, light helmet. In the op's case, he needs a helmet for an "occasional" passenger, likely to be different people, different heads. But go ahead, just keep throwing up the word "safety".


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Really? We're talking about an inanimate object, not skill variances. That being said, I don't settle for "just" DOT.
 
vociferous said:
would you rather have a surgeon who passed with honours, or a surgeon who barely scraped by.
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Do you really think a $60 bell is that much better than a $60 evos? Perhaps if you compare the Evos to a $500 bell you would have your advanced surgeon. However the op is comparing the Evos to other similarly priced helmets. I'm pretty sure almost any $60 helmet "barely scraped by" regardless of brand.



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Iceman said:
Do you really think a $60 bell is that much better than a $60 evos? Perhaps if you compare the Evos to a $500 bell you would have your advanced surgeon. However the op is comparing the Evos to other similarly priced helmets. I'm pretty sure almost any $60 helmet "barely scraped by" regardless of brand.




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What kind of nonsense is that? If it passed the test, it's safe.
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just because two helmets both meet DOT, does not mean they are equally safe.

i agree, two $60 helmets are probably both junk
 
sid_for_speed said:
really for an Shoei or arai other than key safety features, all you are really paying for is the name...
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I fully disagree.. you're also paying for r&d. There's a reason they cost more and anyone in the profession of racing uses them and age more than others.
 
if its dot approved it'll get your passenger on the road. In my opinion a passenger helmet is more for legal reasons than anything. Chances are your going to be riding more carefully than you would with out a passenger because you now have an additional life in your hands.

knock on wood should anything happen a 60 dollar helmet may not be as grate as a more expensive one but chances are you ride regularly and are experienced enough to ensure a safe ride for your passenger.
 
All full face helmets are more or less equal in protection regardless of price. Comfort and build quality are a different matter.

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Bradsma said:
Thanks for all the input guys. If I do end up buying one of these helmets, perhaps a review is in order on at least initial quality, comfort, wind noise, etc...
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"You get what you pay for"

Safety aside, comfort is a BIG deal when it comes to a helmet.
 
I find the materials to be cheap and everything craps out before the season ends. The visor breaks, the vent adjustment breaks. Then you are looking for replacements and can't find any.

Get a decent brand at a close out price. I'm sure the passenger will appreciate the fit and quality of materials better.
 
sid_for_speed said:
if it's DOT rated only....all of them deserve to be sub $100 anyways...SNELL/ ECE rated??? that's a different animal altogether..

really for an Shoei or arai other than key safety features, all you are really paying for is the name...

'cause I bet even for that $60 helmet, you'll put on 10 of them to make sure the one you are buying "fits" you,I'm sure!
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you ever actually tried one on or inspected them up close especially compared to budget brands? I doubt it.

R&D, wind tunnel testing, qualified engineers and crash testing all cost money. Then you can go on about materials, workmanship, the poor Jap putting the graphics on by hand all that costs money compared to cheap ****. THEN you've got the name value, and hell yea you're gonna pay a bit a premium for it.

I guess you'd say other than key safety features, compared to a Toyota/Honda if you buy a Benz/BMW all you're paying for is the name...or that Old Navy jeans are just as good as pair of Armani.

There is nothing wrong with buying things on a budget, what I don't understand is why people who buy cheap **** try to compensate by ******** on people who don't saying "its all the same anyways"
 
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I'd agree with most of what you said but....
LoneRonin said:
...or that Old Navy jeans are just as good as pair of Armani....
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what's the criteria of how good Armani jeans are? I prefer Levis. Suits would be a different story.
 
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I used jeans as example because no suits at Old Navy...

I'd wear Levi's on the bike no problems and and for everyday use, but when you wanna look fresh for a night out on the town they just don't compare. I have a pair of Giorgio Armani jeans (not Armani Exchange) the real ****, fit and finish is unlike anything I've seen in denim. True Religions look normal next to them...

The dyes haven't faded in over a year and don't rub off on your shoes/other clothing. I had a dark pair of true religion and the colour rubbed off onto my white Air Forces...They're slim fit without busting your balls, and don't bunch up in the crotch or ride up your ankles when seated. They're actually perfect to wear on a bike fit wise but costing almost as much as leather riding pants I don't want to crash in them...

At the end of the day you can tell some thought went into the design and there is lots more hands on work involved in making them rather than just rolling off a machine like the mass produced stuff.
 
What i don't understand is why people who buys expensive **** try to compensate by ******** on people who don't by saying "my stuff passed DOT with this grade vs your stuff that also passed DOT and because of its cheap liner and non, handcrafted sticker label that will not protect your cheaper brain as per DOT standard"
 
It's been said earlier, I think the pricing has more to do with quality of materials and R&D. I had a bottom-feeder HJC a while back. Bobbed my head around quite a bit compared to my present Scorpion (which didn't cost alot either). Putting them side by side though you can see the difference the extra $200.00 went.

Also, all this talk of helmet protection. I think the protective difference would be in a rather aggressive crash - and really, would it make that much of a difference considering all the elements involved?

Sorry though I couldn't add any "real" feedback on an actual experience with the Evos.
 
YamaMana said:
It's been said earlier, I think the pricing has more to do with quality of materials and R&D. I had a bottom-feeder HJC a while back. Bobbed my head around quite a bit compared to my present Scorpion (which didn't cost alot either). Putting them side by side though you can see the difference the extra $200.00 went.

Also, all this talk of helmet protection. I think the protective difference would be in a rather aggressive crash - and really, would it make that much of a difference considering all the elements involved?

Sorry though I couldn't add any "real" feedback on an actual experience with the Evos.
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This is true and it all depends on circumstances. In the handful of times I went down street and track I never touched my head down. Its obviously because of the way I fell and I guess I usually stayed with the bike so I didn't go flying...So I guess I'd have been just fine in anything. Safety wise, but then there's long term usage and comfort/reliability.

My helmet which was RF-1000 I bought in 2009 was just retired this season. I still sent it to Shoei for a check up and to have the snap button thingy on the chinstrap replaced, it finally wore out after 75,000km. They said its in 'poor cosmetic condition' (after dozens little falls off the mirror or being blown off the seat, mostly my stupidity), but the shell had not been impacted and the EPS liner had not been compromised, other than in the chin area it was a little depressed from years of hanging it off the mirror. Due these reasons and its age they suggest I replace it.

So mechanically its still good, and I just replaced the cheekpads in 2012 so its relatively fresh. I will just use it a track helmet or backup. I liked it so much I picked up another one in the same graphics when I was lucky enough to find on kijiji, just because...That's my actual backup to the new RF-1200.

Point being....had this been some cheap helmet I don't believe it would have held up nearly as well, replacement parts would probably have been impossible to get, and I wouldn't have the confidence to keep on wearing it after so long.

It cost me 620 after taxes, so it came to about $125 a year, the service was free, I'd rather invest in that than having a piece of **** every other year.
 
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