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electric motorcycle racing in Ontario 2021

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any gear heads even contemplating running an electric bike in the super sonic mini sbk series?

electrics will be classed - and in the rule book apparently
ground braking electrical stuff = opportunity?
cool stuff in our future now..


The race classes include four stroke motorcycles ranging from 50cc to 125cc with 12" wheel sizes or less. There are more details in the CMSBK 2021 RULE BOOK - coming December 2020. Some examples of bikes permitted are, Honda CRF50, GROM, Kawasaki KLX110, Z125 PRO, KTM SX-E5, Ohvale GP-O 110, GP-O 160 and GP-O 190, Suzuki DR-Z50, Yamaha TTR-50E, TTR110E and TTR125L. There will also be classes for E-bikes to participate as long as they meet the CMSBK rule book criteria. The MiniSBK Championship Series, CandianTalent Cup Series and Canadian Ohvale Cup series will launch 2021.
 
electrically assisted pedal bikes? - Only if you want to be hated by every driver and pedestrian in existence. /s

this sounds really interesting though, I really wonder how competitive they'd be.
are there any race series with these already elsewhere?
 
killvino said:
electrically assisted pedal bikes? - Only if you want to be hated by every driver and pedestrian in existence. /s

this sounds really interesting though, I really wonder how competitive they'd be.
are there any race series with these already elsewhere?
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Based on the other bikes running, I suspect they don't mean e-bikes as per the ontario definition. I suspect they are thinking of EV instead of ICE in a small frame bike. Reading the rule book would probably clarify.
 
ah. I was thinking the opposite: e-bikes based on the other bikes and specs listed (12" wheel size)
Not a lot of people building electric bikes in that small size.
Does anyone have the rule book?
 
bitzz said:
...a REAL Ebike is limited to 32kph. Not much of a race there.
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There could be a great race. They have minimal acceleration and on a polished concrete indoor track it would be hard to maintain corner speed. It may not be exhilarating but it could require much skill (or just finish in order of weight as with super low power rider weight plays a huge factor).
 
FYI, a guy I know, just took his M1. 20 questions were general road questions. Question: How much of the road is an E-Bike entitled to. A 25%, B 50%, C 100%. I would have failed this question. The correct answer is 100% .
 
Klaatu said:
FYI, a guy I know, just took his M1. 20 questions were general road questions. Question: How much of the road is an E-Bike entitled to. A 25%, B 50%, C 100%. I would have failed this question. The correct answer is 100% .
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Where's 0%? Those parts of the law are poorly written. You are entitled to 100% but if you take 100% you will get hit with impeding traffic. I only take 100% on a bike when it is really unsafe to get passed (like in S bends). The problem with writing a law at any number under 100% is how would a tractor trailer safely pass and leave you 25%? Who measures? The only simple laws are 0 and 100.
 
For electric motorcycle roadracing - At the moment, I'm not aware of anything that's actually available on the market, suitable for the purpose, and tolerably affordable.

MotoGP has Moto-E, which uses bikes based on an Energica Ego. Good luck ($$$$). It appears (and I only know what Wikipedia can tell me) that the MotoE bikes use a 20 kWh lithium ion battery that is not what the production Energica bikes use. It appears that these bikes entered production in 2015, which means they're using several-years-old technology. I don't know if the Moto-E bike differs but if it does, $$$$.

A Zero is not suitable for roadracing. Neither is the Harley LiveWire. They have come a long way in the last few years, they seem to have gotten to the point where they are decent street bikes, but they're not race bikes.

This situation is likely to change over the next couple of years.
 
Given that the ICE competition is mostly CRF50s, I suspect that the electric provisions will be aimed at something like the Oset bikes
 
Brian P said:
For electric motorcycle roadracing - At the moment, I'm not aware of anything that's actually available on the market, suitable for the purpose, and tolerably affordable.

MotoGP has Moto-E, which uses bikes based on an Energica Ego. Good luck ($$$$). It appears (and I only know what Wikipedia can tell me) that the MotoE bikes use a 20 kWh lithium ion battery that is not what the production Energica bikes use. It appears that these bikes entered production in 2015, which means they're using several-years-old technology. I don't know if the Moto-E bike differs but if it does, $$$$.

A Zero is not suitable for roadracing. Neither is the Harley LiveWire. They have come a long way in the last few years, they seem to have gotten to the point where they are decent street bikes, but they're not race bikes.

This situation is likely to change over the next couple of years.
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If it’s got wheels on it you can race it. But who in their right mind would spend close to 30k on a Harley LiveWire to race, when you can get a good track bike/racer for 5k.
 
Ash said:
Given that the ICE competition is mostly CRF50s, I suspect that the electric provisions will be aimed at something like the Oset bikes
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My son has a Gas Gas mc5-E way faster than a CRF50 if it is small dirt bikes there are options from KTM
 
GMAN said:
If it’s got wheels on it you can race it. But who in their right mind would spend close to 30k on a Harley LiveWire to race, when you can get a good track bike/racer for 5k.
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When electric bike racing was new, I seriously looked at building one.
Starting with a proven GP bike frame, it would cost in the area of $100,000 to be competitive, with most of that going to batteries... and that was around 2012/13.
I could build you a competitive ICE "superbike" for half that.

If it can win races on Sunday, it'll sell on Monday.
 
boyoboy said:
any gear heads even contemplating running an electric bike in the super sonic mini sbk series?

electrics will be classed - and in the rule book apparently
ground braking electrical stuff = opportunity?
cool stuff in our future now..


The race classes include four stroke motorcycles ranging from 50cc to 125cc with 12" wheel sizes or less. There are more details in the CMSBK 2021 RULE BOOK - coming December 2020. Some examples of bikes permitted are, Honda CRF50, GROM, Kawasaki KLX110, Z125 PRO, KTM SX-E5, Ohvale GP-O 110, GP-O 160 and GP-O 190, Suzuki DR-Z50, Yamaha TTR-50E, TTR110E and TTR125L. There will also be classes for E-bikes to participate as long as they meet the CMSBK rule book criteria. The MiniSBK Championship Series, CandianTalent Cup Series and Canadian Ohvale Cup series will launch 2021.
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Looking at this the SX E5 is already listed and is electric
 
In the specs for that little bike, they give the battery capacity at "21 A.h" ... without specifying its voltage. I gleaned elsewhere that it's 900 W.h (0.9 kWh). "KTM claims the SX-E5 will last up to two hours riding at a relaxed pace but on level six, at race pace, you can expect 25-30 minutes."

The good thing about only having a little battery is that it won't take much to recharge it, either.

The kids seemed to like it ... and that's the most important thing: KTM SX-E5 Review - Australasian Dirt Bike Magazine
 
Brian P said:
In the specs for that little bike, they give the battery capacity at "21 A.h" ... without specifying its voltage. I gleaned elsewhere that it's 900 W.h (0.9 kWh). "KTM claims the SX-E5 will last up to two hours riding at a relaxed pace but on level six, at race pace, you can expect 25-30 minutes."

The good thing about only having a little battery is that it won't take much to recharge it, either.

The kids seemed to like it ... and that's the most important thing: KTM SX-E5 Review - Australasian Dirt Bike Magazine
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I will have one soon and can give more feedback then. I didn't want to be repairing a 2 stroke constantly and starting it for the kids. I bought it for a 4 year old turning 5 this year so he should get years from it.

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GreyGhost said:
Where's 0%? Those parts of the law are poorly written. You are entitled to 100% but if you take 100% you will get hit with impeding traffic. I only take 100% on a bike when it is really unsafe to get passed (like in S bends). The problem with writing a law at any number under 100% is how would a tractor trailer safely pass and leave you 25%? Who measures? The only simple laws are 0 and 100.
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They are entitled to 100%, but only in certain circumstances. All cyclists are required to pull to the right when being overtaken, if the road is clear the have approx 1m plus the 1m berth afforded to them by passing vehicles.

Yhe new season for stupid cyclists starts the same day as stupid motorcyclists.
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