just do the test at mto, because even if you fail couple of times you will save money as if im not wrong it only cost 40 dollars for m1 exit test. since you have a bike, ride and practice a lot and you will pass. dont worry about it. its just a matter of confidence.
Doing M2 Test Without going through Safety Course?
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just do the test at mto, because even if you fail couple of times you will save money as if im not wrong it only cost 40 dollars for m1 exit test. since you have a bike, ride and practice a lot and you will pass. dont worry about it. its just a matter of confidence.
gagan_singh
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ok so from my experience with the mto test is that it is a lot harder than one might think. i did it at the Brampton location and the tester there is a prick, he failed me the first time saying that i have very good control of the bike but i did not stop on the line exactly (stopped about 3 inches before) and i made one stupid mistake with the know where everyhting is part. i had a buddy watch me do the mto test, he took the course for his, and what he said is that the course is good if you got the money and are a complete noob at riding then its worth it.
for my re test at the ministry i pulled a smart one and made sure i did not loose more than 2 marks on the first section of the test which is the parking lot part. most people had problems going around the serpentine, if you cant do that one then just put your feet on the ground while turning, and make sure you dont stall the bike. for the stopping on the line part just start to slow down from far once you hit like 20 km (they dont know your speed) then stop on the line!!
this test is easy if you play the test smart and go by their pointing system, and not try to make sure your always doing your best LOL
second part is on the road, if you ride on the rode and know blocking position then you pass.
first time i went 1 out of 6 of us passed, second time 2 out of 7 of us passed. lol (most were daily riders.... but didn't follow the above method)
for my re test at the ministry i pulled a smart one and made sure i did not loose more than 2 marks on the first section of the test which is the parking lot part. most people had problems going around the serpentine, if you cant do that one then just put your feet on the ground while turning, and make sure you dont stall the bike. for the stopping on the line part just start to slow down from far once you hit like 20 km (they dont know your speed) then stop on the line!!
this test is easy if you play the test smart and go by their pointing system, and not try to make sure your always doing your best LOL
second part is on the road, if you ride on the rode and know blocking position then you pass.
first time i went 1 out of 6 of us passed, second time 2 out of 7 of us passed. lol (most were daily riders.... but didn't follow the above method)
"Harder" is a relative term. The schools use a different testing standard than the MTO (MOST II). It's more comprehensive, but it's also administered after a full weekend of practical training. Someone who has successfully completed that training may certainly find the test "easy"; but again, that experience is relative to the training they've received. Someone attending a DriveTest centre without the benefit of training or testing preparation is likely to interpret the difficulty of that testing scenario much differently. The test itself does not determine how "hard" a person may find it, whereas their training and experience going in will.
The best advice for the OP is contact the school they originally trained with and inquire about re-testing and private lessons.
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cathiienguyen
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cathiienguyen
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Never thought about that. Will definitely do tomorrow, thanks.
cathiienguyen
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You seem to think that it cannot be determined whether one exam is harder than the other (without one person going through both of them ?).... That's incorrect, IMO.
Did you watch the video above ??
That IS the MTO M1 exit. If you can do what the green bike did during that 2:57, then you have an M2.
cathiienguyen
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Just watched it, doesn't seem too bad at all actually thanks!
Posters are trying to compare which test is "easier" and which is harder. i did my M1 exit without the benefit of a course, Same with my M2. Does it really matter which one is "easier or harder" the point of the test is to ensure your competent enough on the roads to ride safely. If you truly feel you lacked that much cofidence that you didn't feel comfortable even trying the test then it may be beneficial to redo the course and build your confidence level.
In the end it is about YOUR safety, and having the abilities and confidence to ride safely without geting yourself injured or killed. Take the bike out for a couple of rides in the spring in a parking lot, (ensure someone comes along for moral support and in the event you get hurt there is someone available who can call 911 for you). If you still feel you lack confidence then you basically have three options
1. Ride and practice more until you gain the confidence
2. Redo the course and gain confidence
3. Come to the conclusion that perhaps this sport isn't for you and sell the bike
DON'T go "looking" for an "easy" way to pass the test
In the end it is about YOUR safety, and having the abilities and confidence to ride safely without geting yourself injured or killed. Take the bike out for a couple of rides in the spring in a parking lot, (ensure someone comes along for moral support and in the event you get hurt there is someone available who can call 911 for you). If you still feel you lack confidence then you basically have three options
1. Ride and practice more until you gain the confidence
2. Redo the course and gain confidence
3. Come to the conclusion that perhaps this sport isn't for you and sell the bike
DON'T go "looking" for an "easy" way to pass the test
The M1 Exit test and the MOST II, as Acadian already described, are different. Even in the eyes of the "officials", the Most test is considered a more difficult test, and there are specific reasons for that. The m1 exit test done by MTO or on behalf of MTO is a basic test to show you know how to make the thing work and operate basic controls.
It's not necessary to demonstrate that you know where the controls are when you take a course, because you had a half hour lesson to point everything out, and you've been riding around for two days. At a Drive Test center, someone else could park the bike there for you. There are specific RIDING skills on the MOST that are not even tested by MTO standards, and the ones that are tested are done to a higher standard on the MOST. The Canada Safety Council presented the MSF based MOST and MOST II to MTO, seeking permission to test and approve licence applicants. Permission was granted because it's a higher standard that what would otherwise be required.
Back to the original question, OP - if you took a weekend course and weren't confident enough to even try the test, you should consider seriously whether practicing on your own has given you that confidence, or if you would still benefit from some additional coaching. I would also suggest contacting a school (probably not the one you went to, it's too late if I'm guessing correctly) and asking about a couple of hours of private coaching, a refresher course, or doing the program over again. With some refresher courses, you can use your own bike if you want. If you take the whole course again, you could get your licence there too.
It's not necessary to demonstrate that you know where the controls are when you take a course, because you had a half hour lesson to point everything out, and you've been riding around for two days. At a Drive Test center, someone else could park the bike there for you. There are specific RIDING skills on the MOST that are not even tested by MTO standards, and the ones that are tested are done to a higher standard on the MOST. The Canada Safety Council presented the MSF based MOST and MOST II to MTO, seeking permission to test and approve licence applicants. Permission was granted because it's a higher standard that what would otherwise be required.
Back to the original question, OP - if you took a weekend course and weren't confident enough to even try the test, you should consider seriously whether practicing on your own has given you that confidence, or if you would still benefit from some additional coaching. I would also suggest contacting a school (probably not the one you went to, it's too late if I'm guessing correctly) and asking about a couple of hours of private coaching, a refresher course, or doing the program over again. With some refresher courses, you can use your own bike if you want. If you take the whole course again, you could get your licence there too.
