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Doing M2 Test Without going through Safety Course?

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Hey guys, I took the Motorcycle Safety Course last summer in Oakville. Unfortunately I didn't even attempt to do the M1 exit test at the end of the course because I felt really unconfident with my ability to handle bikes.. however I did get a chance to see how the test was done and how everything was laid out. I bought my own bike this year and ,as I'm weary about paying another $400+ for the course again, I was thinking maybe in the spring I could just practice by myself in an empty parking lot and do the M1 exit test. Do you suggest I go through with the whole course again or should I just book the M1 Exit Test ?

Also does anybody know what the cost is for booking the M1 Exit test by itself (without the whole course) ?
 
You must have retained some information / practical skills from the course. the good thing is that you have a bike to practice on. I would just go through the test requirement as you've researched - save yourself the $400.00 If you fail, a re test wouldn't cost that much anyways.
 
Honestly, I would pay it. With all the money you had paid, you should have at least attempted the test to see what you needed to improve on, if anything (could just need confidence), and the instructors don’t mark harshly, so it’s hard to fail unless you drop the bike.

I did my training over a 2-days period, Saturday and Sunday, which took about 18 hours plus a 3 hour introduction class to fill out paperwork and talk about the basics at Fanshawe College in London, Ontario. I bought a CBR125R a week prior to starting training and had already developed a bunch of unacceptable habits but Fanshawe uses CBR125R so I was already used to the bike.

I believe it will be easier for you while the knowledge is fresh in mind as some of the basics may have been forgotten during your break between training and getting a motorcycle. Once you pass the test, you will have a lot more confidence in your driving capability on the road.
 
The MTO test is harder, the testers can be pricks and you will get 0 help, feedback or instruction. Pay for the course again.
 
^ Yeah the MTO is now privatized, they fail you a few times just to make money off you. You go to the MTO on a bike testing day a lot of the people are on their 2nd or 3rd try.
 
I had a very positive experience with MTO last year for my M2 exit. I took it in Burlington.

As far as your confidence level is concerned OP, have a friend watch you practice. They should be able to tell you if you can pass or no. Even if you fail, it's only 50 bucks for M1 exit. No point going through the beginners course again. Acquire some cones or markers and go through all the segments few times.

If anything, it would be better to spend money on some one on one instruction. You don't need to learn how to duck walk twice.
 
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My buddy failed his test at Humber College. So he decided to redo his test at MTO and he said that part of the test was "walking" the bike. WFT? Is this true?
 
AGMZ said:
My buddy failed his test at Humber College. So he decided to redo his test at MTO and he said that part of the test was "walking" the bike. WFT? Is this true?
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Yep.

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/handbook/motorcycles/section8-1-0.shtml

The walk test is stupid, imo. I would've failed this part of the test on account of I can only get both feet to touch the ground at the same time if I wear pointe shoes.

Passed the test during the safety course just fine, of course.
 
I thought I did the same walk test in centennial safety course.
I believe the test are essentially the same regarding of where you are taking your tests. At centennial I remember they taught us stuff that were greater than what we need for the test, so by the time I did the test I felt easier.
 
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You have to be on the bike for the walk test?
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Actually I just assumed you would, my bad if this is not the case.

Still, I think the walk test seems useless. It doesn't prove that you have any kind of skill other than being able to simultaneously push the bike and keep it from falling over on you.
 
elton_t said:
I believe the test are essentially the same regarding of where you are taking your tests.
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If you're suggesting the test administered by the schools and the MTO is the same, you are incorrect.
 
cathiienguyen said:
Hey guys, I took the Motorcycle Safety Course last summer in Oakville. Unfortunately I didn't even attempt to do the M1 exit test at the end of the course because I felt really unconfident with my ability to handle bikes.. however I did get a chance to see how the test was done and how everything was laid out. I bought my own bike this year and ,as I'm weary about paying another $400+ for the course again, I was thinking maybe in the spring I could just practice by myself in an empty parking lot and do the M1 exit test. Do you suggest I go through with the whole course again or should I just book the M1 Exit Test ?
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Practice in the spring, see how you feel. After some practice, if you still feel you need to retake the course, you can book it then.
Post up in the spring and I am sure you can find someone to come out to a lot with you to give you some tips.

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Also does anybody know what the cost is for booking the M1 Exit test by itself (without the whole course) ?
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http://www.drivetest.ca/EN/licencing/Pages/Licence-Fees.aspx
 
MTO is generally more difficult, especially considering that the training course one is basically a repeat of the exercises that you did on the same day.

The main dilemma people face is justifying spending the extra money (8 times more).

I took the M1 exit with RTI because I was a pure rookie. My M2 I took with MTO because after 4 years riding I felt confident in my skill and believed I can control my "bad" habits.

OP's situation is a bit different and depends on how much knowledge she (?) has retained from the course.
 
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OP - Although the course is just awesome, it's not something you wanna do (twice) if you ever rode on the street, IMO.


Also, I'm wondering where everyone above took their test to come to the conclusion that MTO is harder ?? That's not the case with RTI at all.. The instructors tell you on Day1 that the course, contrary to the popular belief, is actually much harder to pass than the MTO, which is a joke. On a scale of 10, with 10 being hardest, MTO would be a 2, and RTI is like a 7. The reason for this is because RTI and some other courses are not-for-profits, and their only mission is to help make safe riders. Hence, the harsher tests. They wanna make sure that their student is not gonna crash just down the street after passing the test.

[video=youtube;9lAFyRvQfGw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAFyRvQfGw&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
 
Did you ask them if you had to do the training over again? When you fail M1 or M2 exit here, you just redo the last part on a separate date than the other riding days. I thought you were asking what was better to do. MTO is crap and wants your money, not for you to be a good/safe driver.
 
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