If you die...and kill others...passengers, pedestrians, other drivers, that's why. If you die on your own I fully agree with you....in which case if you want your non-governmental intervening thrill sport I suggest bungeeless bungee jumping.
Does our licensing system need a change?
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If you die...and kill others...passengers, pedestrians, other drivers, that's why. If you die on your own I fully agree with you....in which case if you want your non-governmental intervening thrill sport I suggest bungeeless bungee jumping.
If you crash a bike 9 out of 10 times you're probably just gonna kill yourself
So 10% of the time you don't. That's why.
I want tighter licensing and CC caps...
my cousins in italy used to give me **** for riding a 250cc ninja LOLL.
they were stuck riding some 125cc thing legally fora year or something.
But in the end, better safer drivers and riders all around over in europe.
Our system? you can ride a gixxer 1000 @ 16 years old if your parents are rich enough...this is a problem.
my cousins in italy used to give me **** for riding a 250cc ninja LOLL.
they were stuck riding some 125cc thing legally fora year or something.
But in the end, better safer drivers and riders all around over in europe.
Our system? you can ride a gixxer 1000 @ 16 years old if your parents are rich enough...this is a problem.
Kri$han
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Can we at least all agree that what Ontario needs is Insurance reform, and not driver licensing reform?
Getting a bike is a huge responsibility - to yourself and to those around you. If you don't value life enough to exercise more caution while doing something this dangerous, then I have no doubt you'll get what's coming to you in spades, on a motorcycle. That being said, I value the freedom to choose to ride whatever I want to/can afford.
I'd wager that insurance fraud is a bit of a catch-22, though: the more we have to pay for non-value added services, the more fraud probably occurs.
I think it's insanity that I'm paying for the bare minimum in insurance (on both my bike and my car), in order to make it affordable, and yet my coverage is essentially useless to me if I play any contributing role in an accident.
Getting a bike is a huge responsibility - to yourself and to those around you. If you don't value life enough to exercise more caution while doing something this dangerous, then I have no doubt you'll get what's coming to you in spades, on a motorcycle. That being said, I value the freedom to choose to ride whatever I want to/can afford.
I'd wager that insurance fraud is a bit of a catch-22, though: the more we have to pay for non-value added services, the more fraud probably occurs.
I think it's insanity that I'm paying for the bare minimum in insurance (on both my bike and my car), in order to make it affordable, and yet my coverage is essentially useless to me if I play any contributing role in an accident.
Roomie
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I think perhaps it needs both. Insurance is a total scam here I agree but as I've said before many times, new riders have no business on a supersport or any other powerful machine. Everyone should learn the basics of riding on 'smaller' bikes. Riding is riding. If you have the fundamentals down then you can focus on a specific style or size of bike. It's reasons like the people who run out and buy liter bikes, kill themselves or others when they have 0 experience riding that our insurances are so high. If both were changed that they couldn't possibly get insurance on such machines maybe things would change.
what happened to the good old days of unsatified judgement? when i started riding the government insurance was 15$ that's right 15$ and at 16 i spent all my money buying my bike and couldnt afford private insurance. when i got my license, the permit aloud me to ride to the ministry, but if i failed the test, you had to get the bike home some other way, truck, trailer or a friend. there was no training course's or legal way to practice on govt roads, just private property. the insurance companies claim high medical costs, it's better you die than to surive in their eyes.
And 20 years from now this will be the good old days when insurance was only $2k per year.
In my opinion our system is most ridiculous. You should NOT be able to ride a motorcycle on public roads after passing a (super easy) written (!!!) test. No experience necessary... You should not be able to get insurance with M1. A practical test should be 100% required, no exceptions. Would eliminate a whole bunch of people with no clue and force more newbies into riding courses. It is laughable to mention anything safety related when an absolutely ignorant person can acquire something they have never used before and turn it into a lethal weapon.
I realize that this was not addressed to me personally, but it seems that you have a very strong opinion about what I should and should not be doing.
How about this: if you think YOU're not capable of riding a motorcycle on public road - well ... DON'T.
And I'll somehow decide for myself, without your help.
We do have to share same road, and for that we'll have a minimal set of simple rules. But without too much of telling each other what to do.
YuriB - that is a very selfish and ignorant way of thinking. If you have your own private road in your backyard - then do whatever you want. However, you share a public road with me and what you think about your own capabilities is of little concern to me.
Passing a written test without any other requirements is not sufficient training nor preparation.
Passing a written test without any other requirements is not sufficient training nor preparation.
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Roomie
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YuriB that's like me saying I think I'm ok to pilot a jet powered dragster or f1 car. Since we have to share the road with newbs something should be done to ensure they're at least qualified to drive whatever vehicle. As I said in another thread, kid at the dealer buying he same gsxr as me, never Ben been on a dirt bike in his life. Would you feel safe riding in traffic with this kid? If you say yes then give your head a shake.
