Digital Video Cameras should be mandatory in new vehicles

[de Jager]

Crash scene investigation and forensics have come a long way but in many cases, there are still unanswered questions and police must fall upon experience and speculation to come up with a reasonable explanation of what happened. This is especially true when there are no bystanders who witnessed the collision and the drivers involved both succumb to their injuries or simply can’t remember what happened due to short-term memory loss.


This is where digital video footage comes into play. Many times, crash scene investigators have relied upon traffic cameras to provide important clues as to how the crash occurred. What’s still missing though is what leads up to the crash. What really caused it? Did the driver fall asleep? Was the driver talking on a cell phone? Did they spill coffee on their lap causing a sudden distraction that caused them to veer out of their lane or into oncoming traffic?

Read the article here...

 

[油井緋色]

Crash scene investigation and forensics have come a long way but in many cases, there are still unanswered questions and police must fall upon experience and speculation to come up with a reasonable explanation of what happened. This is especially true when there are no bystanders who witnessed the collision and the drivers involved both succumb to their injuries or simply can’t remember what happened due to short-term memory loss.


This is where digital video footage comes into play. Many times, crash scene investigators have relied upon traffic cameras to provide important clues as to how the crash occurred. What’s still missing though is what leads up to the crash. What really caused it? Did the driver fall asleep? Was the driver talking on a cell phone? Did they spill coffee on their lap causing a sudden distraction that caused them to veer out of their lane or into oncoming traffic?

Read the article here...

Whoever made the website needs to get slapped, who the hell justifies to the left (I will comment after I read).

Doesn't really give any info most of us don't know already...especially with the whole Ragu thing going on right now (I hope somebody sets his house on fire and posts a video).

 

[OpenGambit]

unfortunately, law enforcement dont' have a right to require that everything gets filmed just to make their jobs easiler.

 

[klr_guy]

Whoever made the website needs to get slapped

A post by 'de Jager' on a very clearly labelled 'de Jager' website - way to keep things classy.

 

[de Jager]

unfortunately, law enforcement dont' have a right to require that everything gets filmed just to make their jobs easiler.

And there was once a time, when side view mirrors and seatbelts weren't required either. Sometimes new laws are actually a good thing.

 

[OpenGambit]

you are comparing side view mirrors and seatbelts to mandatory surveilliance?

 

[油井緋色]

A post by 'de Jager' on a very clearly labelled 'de Jager' website - way to keep things classy.

Oops lol

Thanks for pointing that out, my apologies. But seriously, center align your website. Left justified websites were used widely back in 4:3 days, not 16:9 or 16:10 (present).

you are comparing side view mirrors and seatbelts to mandatory surveilliance?

I don't see any harm in this. Give me a scenario where this could screw you over if you were innocent. I'm sure somebody out there is more pessimistic than I am.

 

[jc100]

Not sure you could get anywhere with this for private vehicles. It would have legs for public transport though or any vehicle that takes passengers. Something like a black box.

 

[de Jager]

you are comparing side view mirrors and seatbelts to mandatory surveilliance?

No no...my opinion in this case isn't from the point of view of 'surveillance' but rather as an important tool in crash scene investigation, research, training and assisting the medical community. I was simply throwing out that Mirrors and seatbelts weren't always present on on vehicles and they have saved lots of lives and so would in-car cameras.

 

[OpenGambit]

I don't see any harm in this. Give me a scenario where this could screw you over if you were innocent. I'm sure somebody out there is more pessimistic than I am.

Feel free to put one in yourself.

Hell why stop there, put one in your living room and one in your bathroom in case you slip and fall in the shower or someone breaks in your house.

 

[OpenGambit]

No no...my opinion in this case isn't from the point of view of 'surveillance' but rather as an important tool in crash scene investigation, research, training and assisting the medical community. I was simply throwing out that Mirrors and seatbelts weren't always present on on vehicles and they have saved lots of lives and so would in-car cameras.

I don't see how an in car camera would save a life considering it can only be used after the fact. I am pretty sure black boxes in airplanes haven't saved any lives either.

 

[油井緋色]

Feel free to put one in yourself.

Hell why stop there, put one in your living room and one in your bathroom in case you slip and fall in the shower or someone breaks in your house.

I'm getting a Contour incase the Ragu incident ever happens to me. But as for my house, don't need it, that's what knives, baseball bats, and body bags are for. No witnesses in the house amirite?

And by the way, I'm not thinking about using this **** to save lives, I'm thinking about using this **** to save myself from getting pinned by *corrupt popo, Ragu-look-alikes, or just people who recently immigrated in here that can't drive.

 

[de Jager]

Feel free to put one in yourself.

Hell why stop there, put one in your living room and one in your bathroom in case you slip and fall in the shower or someone breaks in your house.

I have two digital cameras in my car and I hit record every time I drive. One points forward out the windshield, the other one points back at me and covers in interior of the car.

I don't see how an in car camera would save a life considering it can only be used after the fact. I am pretty sure black boxes in airplanes haven't saved any lives either.

If the footage can be provided to your ER team quickly enough it may. But like I said in the article, it could further the development of passive safety systems in future vehicles. It could also save you personally from being charged and prevent your insurance rates from increasing...assuming you aren't at fault for a crash.

 

[de Jager]

Forgive my ignorance but what's the reference to Ragu mean?

 

[油井緋色]

Forgive my ignorance but what's the reference to Ragu mean?

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?152153-This-is-why-I-have-a-dash-cam

And also....

 

[OpenGambit]

I don't really care what you have in your car. But there is no basis, legal or otherwise, by which you can tell me what to have in MY car.

Maybe you can give an actual situation where an ER team would be benefited by knowing that you were texting on your cell phone before you crashed. And maybe some statistics.. or are you just speculating all of it?

Further the development of passive safety systems... now you are talking about transfering that information to 3rd parties... Even better, and what would you learn that crash test dummies can't provide? Crash facial expressions?

Lastly... protection from being charged?? really?? More like the other way around.

 

[de Jager]

Ahhh yes...I've seen this video. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[油井緋色]

I don't really care what you have in your car. But there is no basis, legal or otherwise, by which you can tell me what to have in MY car.

Maybe you can give an actual situation where an ER team would be benefited by knowing that you were texting on your cell phone before you crashed. And maybe some statistics.. or are you just speculating all of it?

Further the development of passive safety systems... now you are talking about transfering that information to 3rd parties... Even better, and what would you learn that crash test dummies can't provide? Crash facial expressions?

Lastly... protection from being charged?? really?? More like the other way around.

Really?

#1. Look up ragu incident
#2. Go look up crap about corrupt cops charging you for 150+ when you not going 150+

If a cop is gonna charge you for speeding at your actual speed, you're screwed, if a cop is gonna be nice about it...unless you go to court with your camera and say "NO COP IS WRONG I WAS GOING 300KM/H"....

??????

Explain yourself please, I'm confused.

 

[OpenGambit]

So what? so you are saying I must, as a legal requirement, have it in my car because it might protect me from those things?

Why the hell does that matter. You are just saying oh may potentially be helpful, but its still not a reason to MAKE me have it.
eating a salad instead of mcdonalds for lunch is gonna make me healthier. Are you saying the government should come and make me eat a salad instead?

Wow YorkU is a bad school

 

[油井緋色]

So what? so you are saying I must, as a legal requirement, have it in my car because it might protect me from those things?

Why the hell does that matter. You are just saying oh may potentially be helpful, but its still not a reason to MAKE me have it.
eating a salad instead of mcdonalds for lunch is gonna make me healthier. Are you saying the government should come and make me eat a salad instead?

Huh? I never said that, I'm simply saying it's a good idea to shove one into your helmet or car. Nothing about legalities.

And no to the salad thing, ppl dying from obesity = more job openings!\

EDIT: wait...what they could do for the laws is allow videos to be used as evidence? Dunno if it is allowed or not but I heard it isn't.