Daily sports car?

Had a chance to drive an NC miata a couple of days ago. Not sure I’m man enough to drive one. Fun car for sure but I’m taking to heart everyone telling me it’s a bad idea!

off to drive the 230, BRZ and 128 this week.
 
@mimico_polak let me know what you think of the BRZ...I love it's styling and was thinking of getting one myself...only downer is RWD in winter, but hey, I only drive 2.9 km to work one way LOL

I loved my 2007 Miata...but then I'm small so it fit perfectly...I took a bigger guy (over 6' and 230 lbs or so) for a ride once...he looked hilarious in the passenger seat...LMAO
 
ifiddles said:
@mimico_polak let me know what you think of the BRZ...I love it's styling and was thinking of getting one myself...only downer is RWD in winter, but hey, I only drive 2.9 km to work one way LOL

I loved my 2007 Miata...but then I'm small so it fit perfectly...I took a bigger guy (over 6' and 230 lbs or so) for a ride once...he looked hilarious in the passenger seat...LMAO
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Will do! The Miata was definitely fun. But at 40 I’m still listening to people’s opinions about cars lol. Mind you a family with 2 kids and the word ‘this is a foolish purchase’ keep repeating in my head.
 
@mimico_polak well I was 39 when I bought my Miata, however, didn't have any kids...went out one day, test drove it in Oakville for about an hour (those were the good ole days LOL) and bought it...got home and then told my hubby what I had done...but then he had a Subaru WRX so hey...

I'd love another one, but can't get over the laptop sitting on the dash...
 
mimico_polak said:
Will do! The Miata was definitely fun. But at 40 I’m still listening to people’s opinions about cars lol. Mind you a family with 2 kids and the word ‘this is a foolish purchase’ keep repeating in my head.
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You know, you're the one that's going to be driving it, right, not everyone else on here. In terms of foolishness, what's the difference between a Miata and a BRZ? You should buy the one that you like the most.
 
Mina said:
The BRZ is a boring car. No power whatsoever.
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Does a miata feel more powerful? If he wants light and fun with decent power we may have to swing him back to the classics. Modern safety/crash mitigation have made cars so much heavier and less fun.
 
GreyGhost said:
Does a miata feel more powerful? If he wants light and fun with decent power we may have to swing him back to the classics. Modern safety/crash mitigation have made cars so much heavier and less fun.
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Haven't driven a Miata so I can't say but the BRZ should be at the bottom of the list. ?
 
GreyGhost said:
Does a miata feel more powerful? If he wants light and fun with decent power we may have to swing him back to the classics. Modern safety/crash mitigation have made cars so much heavier and less fun.
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A Miata isn't going to feel any more powerful on the gas but definitely feels like a "quicker" car in general. its a couple hundred pounds lighter and has been refined for the last 3 decades. Its impressive that Mazda somehow packed all the safety/crash requirements into the most recent ND version and kept the weight within 150-200lbs of the original NA Miata from the 90's. If you can get over the hairdresser stigma it really is one of the best sport cars you can buy for the money.

I agree that the BRZ is a boring car - It really needs another 50-75hp for how heavy it is. I'd also be wary of a used one. It seems the target demographic is 20 somethings that use the redline as a shift indicator. The only thing it does better is storage space / roomier cabin.

S2000 is the only other thing I would suggest over the Miata. However they've become very collectable and clean ones are (IMO) too much money. Would be a great weekender but I wouldn't want to be putting commuter mileage on it. The asking price has gotten to the point where you might as well spend the extra $10k and buy a Lotus Elise.
 
I haven't seen the unloved GM abortion (Solstice/Sky) in your list MP. IIRC, someone on here has a Sky. They were decent looking but it's a GM sports car so meh. Price should be good.
 
You could get a clean sky in the 18k range that's what I sold my 06 redline for last year with 100k

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On my way to drive a manual and auto 228. Can’t find a 235 within my range for the life of me. Messed up large for not buying that red one in BC :(
 
Mina said:
The BRZ is a boring car. No power whatsoever.
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My understanding is that power is the opposite of what the BRZ is about. I know at least on the Toyota version they put the extra small Prius tires on so you could feel the limit of grip more easily, and at speeds that didn't involve a roadside legal trial. Lots of porkers have spec sheet power these days, but they're numb to actually drive around a corner...
 
Priller said:
My understanding is that power is the opposite of what the BRZ is about. I know at least on the Toyota version they put the extra small Prius tires on so you could feel the limit of grip more easily, and at speeds that didn't involve a roadside legal trial. Lots of porkers have spec sheet power these days, but they're numb to actually drive around a corner...
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Hats the marketing I have heard. If you want to go that route, you need to be merciless with weight though. Otherwise you get a Prius. Slippery around corners and a loud pedal that minimally influences speed. Not fun. The brz is more than 500 lbs heavier than a miata (~25%) with 25 hp more (~15%).
 
GreyGhost said:
Hats the marketing I have heard. If you want to go that route, you need to be merciless with weight though. Otherwise you get a Prius. Slippery around corners and a loud pedal that minimally influences speed. Not fun. The brz is more than 500 lbs heavier than a miata (~25%) with 25 hp more (~15%).
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I seem to remember the old Top Gear bunch quite liking the Toyota version, for the reasons the marketing bumpf highlighted. They weren't typically interested in keeping companies happy, so as unbearable as Clarkson and Co. could be, it was usually an honest opinion. Of course, that was for the Euro version, so no idea if there's any difference with what we got here, or if the Subaru was functionally different from the Toyota.

I haven't been near either one, so have zero first-hand knowledge, but I am partial to low-power sporty cars, as I find so many cheaper spec-sheet modern cars to have power steering that completely kills any road feel. The Charger/Challenger comes to mind, having rented both over the years...
 
Oof....BMW didn’t budge an inch on the 228s I drove....after warranty and taxes way over budget (about 8k).

do I need warranty extension on a 2016? I’ve heard nothing but horror stories of BMW out of warranty.
 
Priller said:
I seem to remember the old Top Gear bunch quite liking the Toyota version, for the reasons the marketing bumpf highlighted. They weren't typically interested in keeping companies happy, so as unbearable as Clarkson and Co. could be, it was usually an honest opinion. Of course, that was for the Euro version, so no idea if there's any difference with what we got here, or if the Subaru was functionally different from the Toyota.

I haven't been near either one, so have zero first-hand knowledge, but I am partial to low-power sporty cars, as I find so many cheaper spec-sheet modern cars to have power steering that completely kills any road feel. The Charger/Challenger comes to mind, having rented both over the years...
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I think they were happy with it because it was like fresh air when it was released. Much more affordable, sporty enough, more about driving than anything else. I really liked it when it was released and even was thinking about buying one! But then I drove it.. and it was so freaking booooring for me (at that time I had heavily modded WRX and it gave me so much more emotions every day). It was a very fun car on auto-x events (never drove it on a big track tho) but on streets it was boring..

Because of some reason, a completely stock NC Miata felt quicker and much more interesting to drive for me. I personally will choose Miata instead of BRZ/FRS any day.
 
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