Thank you Paul. The car in question was a Honda 2003 with almost 300,000 on the odo. It was in mint shape though. I paid 1450 for it. As an aside,I don't see the point of having a new (er) car that I will drive only during the winter? Anyway.....I am torn between calling the insurance company and talking to them but one never knows how things will go....and waiting till Monday and trying to get info from the trucking company. If they don't claim and I won't claim,is there a point to fessing up to insurance? I don't want to be sneaking around with some skullduggery either looking over my shoulder like a gollum but if no claims are made from either party who's the wiser?