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COVID and the housing market

in addition to the permits and permissions, I suspect the lending is also probably trickier...convincing the bank to give you money for an empty piece of land....

I hear they usually attach conditions that you have to build a house by date xyz

Never really looked into it in detail

Banks will gladly loan you money if you can prove you don't need it. If you need $500K all you have to do is sign over a $1 Million RRSP and you get what you need at a decent rate. If you miss a few payments they cash in the RRSP, half goes to the government and the bank gets their money back.

I was under the impression that banks wouldn't loan money to individuals to buy land. To get a deal going the seller would offer builders terms, a small down payment and the rest due a year later after the house is built and a bank will loan the money. The house basically needs an occupancy permit and you join the cheque a month club.

A friend had a dream of building his own house with his bare hands. He bought a lot, bulldozer heavy equipment and got a permit. Then he found out the bank wouldn't loan him money for construction. They would have loaned him money for the bulldozer and heavy equipment.
 
Then I’m the only idiot with a lender that actually tells me ‘you don’t need it, don’t let the banks put their fingers in your house in any way shape or form. Interest is higher in an unsecured LOC but you need to wait X years for it to justify the risk of bank having access to your home. I’ll do it because I’ll get paid, but don’t recommend it.’
 
Ya so the mortgage broker said I need to stop coming up with these elaborate ideas :confused:


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And you folks are correct! Bank would require a condition like a house being built within x number of months + permit fees +++++++. It will end up costing me more because it would be a custom home
 
Ya so the mortgage broker said I need to stop coming up with these elaborate ideas :confused:


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And you folks are correct! Bank would require a condition like a house being built within x number of months + permit fees +++++++. It will end up costing me more because it would be a custom home
honestly, if owning a home is important to you, I would suggest leaving the country.

If you've got half decent career prospects and a canadian citizenship, it'll be easy as cake.
 
Ya so the mortgage broker said I need to stop coming up with these elaborate ideas :confused:


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And you folks are correct! Bank would require a condition like a house being built within x number of months + permit fees +++++++. It will end up costing me more because it would be a custom home
another option is a mixed commercial/residential
its trickier and harder to get financed and there a more loop holes to jump through

the plus side is no bidding wars, or astronomical prices
 
another option is a mixed commercial/residential
its trickier and harder to get financed and there a more loop holes to jump through

the plus side is no bidding wars, or astronomical prices
That's going to be hard with a starter home budget. I half considered a commercial property outside of Barrie 18 months ago but it was going to be >200k for 500 sq ft (basically big two car garage converted to an office) on a very small lot with a holding tank. Woof.
 
Hundreds like this in the GTA alone.

Stephen Punwasi is brilliant.






A wealthy West Vancouver real estate developer faces an unusual lawsuit involving a $10 million loan which was advanced in China with the key term that it must be repaid in B.C.
The suit was filed in B.C. Supreme Court on June 1 against Qiang Wang (also known as Edison Washington) by a Chinese businesswomanwho claims he defaulted on the loan after making an initial interest payment. Also listed as defendants are Amy Barsha Washington (also known as Feng Yun Shao) and her company Chongye Developments Ltd.
The Washingtons live in a $7.3 million home on Eyremount Drive in West Vancouver.
They have been active players in Vancouver’s real estate scene. Since 2011 the couple, whose citizenship is not known, has purchased at least 10 Vancouver properties worth an assessed value of $152 million

Another source to have when idiots with their heads up their *****', who are oblivious to whats going on in this country tell me and others that Chinese money has little to no effect on our housing market. That also goes for our idiot prime minister who thinks Canadians concerns are "xenophobic".
 
This has been a 'concern' in Ontario since the 50's when German nationals started buying a LOT of farmland in Halton and Wellington counties and a LOT of acreage in Northern Ontario. Foreign investment has been going on forever.
 

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An ok $200K house just listed near me for $999,990. 1970's house with minimal updates (eg 90's carpet) (as the RE listing says "a blank canvas for your renovations"). It has 2.2 acres but on a busy road. It will be interesting to see what happens. 1M+ is a lot if you are planning on knocking it down and rebuilding. If you want a place to live, there are nicer houses with less land for similar money. Two acres just gives you more grass to cut, it doesn't buy you much space to do anything. My guess is either a rental house for a rich person to park money in (cash flow negative by a lot) or someone playing the long game buys it and lives in it for a decade while hoping it appreciates a lot and the next person can knock down your 2M crappy house and build a mansion.
 
This has been a 'concern' in Ontario since the 50's when German nationals started buying a LOT of farmland in Halton and Wellington counties and a LOT of acreage in Northern Ontario. Foreign investment has been going on forever.
Went to chat with a farmer in Wasaga that we buy eggs from a few weeks back. Asked him how long he’s been in the house.

His family bought the farm and land in 1869...from land speculators that were expecting wasaga to grow.

As far as I can see it’ll end with him as there are no descendants between him and his brother left.

on another note, house a few streets is sitting vacant since 2 years that we moved to the area. Have seen rental ads pop up for 6k/month. I can only assume it’s money laundering so they can show ‘look we put out an ad, and here is this ‘fake’ tenant paying us rent in cash.’
 
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I'm done with housing...

Just gonna go gamble my money into meme stocks and if I get lucky buy something with cash

The market crashes every 10~ years heavily.

First time I accidently timed it was in 2008. Second time was last year when COVID tanked the market. In both events, I did not have obligations (like children) nor did I live anywhere near my means (50% of my income is not used.)

My suggestion to you and everyone that wants a home: live under your means, save the money, and dump it into the market when it crashes. You're not aiming to catch a falling knife; you're putting the money in while the knife indiscriminately kills everything before somebody stops the knife and **** heals.

The reason this works is pretty dark: people are stupid and like status. They'll live near 100% of the means or overextend. You can count on these stupid types to panic sell, causing others to panic as well. Count on that and go against the grain when it happens.
 
I remember a good line once. Not sure where, not sure who but it went something like...

The only reason there are recessions is because the word is heard in the media, then someone else picks it up, and another, and another...and then you have a recession as everyone panics.
 
Yup. This hurts normal people.

Helps out the ones that have cash as it means less competition for properties.
well, with prices on everything rising, rampant inflation should soon lead to double digit interest rates. The banks are adding stress tests NOW to make sure there's still enough money/value for them to snafu during bankrupty and forelosures. just kidding.

food for thought..
 
@mimico_polak I've been saying that for years...if the media didn't flaunt the R word around as much as they do/did, then people wouldn't panic and the economy would be ok...maybe I'm wrong as I'm no economist, however, I think a lot of it is media driven panic...
 
@mimico_polak I've been saying that for years...if the media didn't flaunt the R word around as much as they do/did, then people wouldn't panic and the economy would be ok...maybe I'm wrong as I'm no economist, however, I think a lot of it is media driven panic...
Isnt that everything? Fire all the media and politicians and the world would mostly be a better place.
 

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