Giving up rights is easy to do . Getting them back not so much . Once you open the APP box . It will be impossible to close . As the government can use another reason to keep it going . No matter how much they promise not to abuse it .
Uh, delete the app? And again, the app simply does not do the nefarious things you want to to believe it does. Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it fact. You can want to believe the moon is made of cheese all day, but it doesn't change the reality it is not.
Well it could be considered effective in that the program is setup to reliably report when you spend more than 15 minutes in close proximity to an infected person. Whether that criteria is the ideal test is well beyond the scope of the programmers.
Does this mean that the app relies on self reporting?
Does this mean that it expects people to go onsite, get tested and then update the app on their own in order to notify others?
I wonder how many people will be this diligent...and I genuinely wonder if people would be afraid of doing so out of fear of any repurcussions they may potentially face (despite the app claiming to be anonymous)...
Is it good or bad that 'they (HealthCare, Government or what have you)' do not update the system themselves in order to notify others of a patient's condition..?
On a side note, this leads me to another question - will they ever mandate that every citizen above the age of so and so get tested periodically?
I will admit that I've intentionally kept away from these testing sites - partly out of fear that the likelihood of getting exposed in that/those area(s) is/are much higher..
Last I heard...
At least 65% of the population needs to download the app for it to be effective.
App does not work on devices older than 5 years.
Theres a good chance this app will do little to nothing it's supposed to.
Last I heard...
At least 65% of the population needs to download the app for it to be effective.
App does not work on devices older than 5 years.
Theres a good chance this app will do little to nothing it's supposed to.
Did you take the 10 to 15 minutes to study this situation like before .
Talk to people from east block countries why they left them . Our government is a complete mess . Deficit skyrocketing . WE scandal shut down by the Lieberals and NDP . Media bought out by the government .
But you say trust the government .
Sorry I'm more skeptical then you to trust this APPs ability will not be abused .
Exposure Notification: Diagnosis Server implementation / Notification d’exposition : Mise en œuvre du serveur de diagnostic - cds-snc/covid-alert-server
Going to set an alarm reminder to 6 months to revisit this thread.
I am now at the age when this type of app doesn't really bother me.,What are they going to learn about me, I frequent timmies and the ganny park quite often and I don't have any real skeletons in the closet. However a 20-40 year Jayv would be up in arms about this app, it's a gross invasion of privacy. If you guys think there is nothing harmful to it, that's your opinion and i agree with the member @pfbmgd . Trusting the government(and their highly trained employees) to make sure your privacy is secure haha..there will be a hack or a leak within the first month.
Review of OPC and other provincial and territorial privacy commissioners on the privacy implications of the exposure notification app.
www.priv.gc.ca
While we are of the view that the purpose limitation has been satisfied as it relates to the Government of Canada and the Government of Ontario, we note that there is a risk that third parties, including private sector companies, may seek to compel individuals to use the app or to provide information from the app for other purposes than to inform them of possible exposures.
Last night both my wife and I received texts, apparently from some government body, inviting us to download this app! We won't be doing that since we have older phones with no data plans. Also, the available memory in my phone is nearly full and I don't want to delete my music files in order to make room for some app that probably won't work anyway.
We both turned 65 this year but I'm not the least bit worried about catching this virus because we naturally social distance from others and know how to wash our hands. That got us safely through the time when the virus was at it's peak, so I think we are safe now that there haven't been any recently reported cases in Orangeville.
Last night both my wife and I received texts, apparently from some government body, inviting us to download this app! We won't be doing that since we have older phones with no data plans. Also, the available memory in my phone is nearly full and I don't want to delete my music files in order to make room for some app that probably won't work anyway.
We both turned 65 this year but I'm not the least bit worried about catching this virus because we naturally social distance from others and know how to wash our hands. That got us safely through the time when the virus was at it's peak, so I think we are safe now that there haven't been any recently reported cases in Orangeville.
It doesnt need data and it's 10 MB so roughly a single song. Older phone may be an insurmountable obstacle depending on how old. I'm not saying you have to download it, just dont use crap arguments to try to justify your position.
We live together in a free society, you are not required to download the app.
I downloaded it for a few reasons:
I'm interested in protecting myself, I trust the gov't and app more than the clowns that engage in high risk transmission activity, Same reason I wear a helmet and riding gear.
I'm interested in the safety of others, my elderly parents, my family and friends. Same reason I keep my vehicles safe, have an alarm in the pool.
I'm not worried about Big Brother watching me. If I led an interesting enough life that I had to stay in the shadows that might be different.
It's the right thing to do. I don't have to help an injured person on the road, support the police if I witness a crime, give an old lady my seat on the bus... but I do.
If you wear a tinfoil hat and are afraid of this app, here's some additional advice to keep you safe.
Use only burner cell phones. Big bro can easily get your location and conversations if he wants them.
Only use cash, Big Bro can easily get your transaction history if he wants them.
Toss your Google and Alexa home speakers, as Google and Amazon can spy on you.
Stop using email, social media, Internet sites as your activity, communication and location are vulnerable. Big bro (and others) can easily get your location and conversations if they wants them.
If you wear a tinfoil hat and are afraid of this app, here's some additional advice to keep you safe.
Use only burner cell phones. Big bro can easily get your location and conversations if he wants them.
Only use cash, Big Bro can easily get your transaction history if he wants them.
Toss your Google and Alexa home speakers, as Google and Amazon can spy on you.
Stop using email, social media, Internet sites as your activity, communication and location are vulnerable. Big bro (and others) can easily get your location and conversations if they wants them.
Meh, that's all OK. It's only that pesky app that's the problem because it's from the guvment. I don't really understand what open source is and aint' nobody going to explain it to me because I don't care.. And I don't believe anyone who says it's safe and doesn't GPS track me and doesn't record me and doesn't take photos and doesn't use all my data. And I don't have a blue tooth (Whatever that is, my teeth are all white) so it probably wouldn't work anyways.
Sorry, gotta go, my wife is messaging me on Facebook and Google Maps just told me I missed a turn.
Riding or leaving the house have risks and rewards.
What are the risks of this app other than pure paranoia?
Point to a single reputable source that shows there is any possible way you can be harmed by this app as it is currently implemented.
Sure, a future update could introduce something and you would have every right to go nuts at that point, but there is no risk to installing it right now and potentially some benefit.
Reading the responses from people on this topic just scares me . I had a taste of communism/socialism . I am glad that my parents defected to Canada . I bet people in Venezuela were just as quick to give up their rights . Look how well they are doing now .
Reading the responses from people on this topic just scares me . I had a taste of communism/socialism . I am glad that my parents defected to Canada . I bet people in Venezuela were just as quick to give up their rights . Look how well they are doing now .
Riding or leaving the house have risks and rewards.
What are the risks of this app other than pure paranoia?
Point to a single reputable source that shows there is any possible way you can be harmed by this app as it is currently implemented.
Sure, a future update could introduce something and you would have every right to go nuts at that point, but there is no risk to installing it right now and potentially some benefit.
Life has a risk and reward . Each time we leave our house . It's one step at a time .Next time you may not have a choice but to get the APP . If it only saves one life theory . Everything is reputable till it's not .
Reading the responses from people on this topic just scares me . I had a taste of communism/socialism . I am glad that my parents defected to Canada . I bet people in Venezuela were just as quick to give up their rights . Look how well they are doing now .
I literally posted the source code so you can read it. You can also compile it and install it on your phone to ensure that it is, in fact, the code you just read instead of something else (via Play Store or whatever.)
Wait, you have no clue what the **** I'm talking about right?
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