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800over said:
Can you see how your comment and mine can both be correct? Homeopathy was thought to be based on science....still is. But is not. Again, just because some people SAY the word "science" doesn't mean that it is. Science proved the world was a sphere more than 2000 years ago.

Under your article it says "see Pseudoscience".

pseudo- a combining form meaning “false,” “pretended,” “unreal,” used in the formation of compound words (pseudoclassic; pseudointellectual): in scientific use, denoting close or deceptive resemblance to the following element (pseudobulb; pseudocarp), and used sometimes in chemical names of isomers (pseudoephedrine).
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Yes we are both pretty much on the same page. As our knowledge increases we find a lot of the things we believed in the past dont work the way we thought or are just not true at all. Who knows what people in 200yrs will think of us primitive people of today.

jc100 said:
Arthur C Clarke had it right...it’s kind of appropriate for this discussion..

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Copernicus was condemned for heresy by the Catholic Church by using scientific theory to show the earth orbited the sun and not the other way around.

What we teach in schools about subatomic particles today is very different than was taught only maybe 20 years ago.

Science evolves (also religion often interferes with science).
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This is what im getting at, over the last decade or so, science has almost turned into a religion where if you question the dogma you are attacked and shut down for heresy. There has also always been a crazy amount of money flowing into "studies" by partisan actors which should always be questioned and reviewd eg. oil, tobacco, communications and sugar industries. Whenever people stand to make or lose billions there will be disinformation and skewed scientific process.
 
Like much of the media, science is increasingly intertwined with politics - my fear is the scientific community may be heading off credibility and doubt issues not unlike what the news entertainment biggies are facing today.

Universities stifiling free expression and speech, science centred NGOs bending to world leaders, universities politicizing dean roles, political and special organizations infiltrating government research teams.

Any finger on the scales of science is scary. We have seen what a handful of politicians and cable tv channels outlets have done to the news media, what if this continues to push thru scientific communities?
 
Mad Mike said:
Like much of the media, science is increasingly intertwined with politics - my fear is the scientific community may be heading off credibility and doubt issues not unlike what the news entertainment biggies are facing today.

Universities stifiling free expression and speech, science centred NGOs bending to world leaders, universities politicizing dean roles, political and special organizations infiltrating government research teams.

Any finger on the scales of science is scary. We have seen what a handful of politicians and cable tv channels outlets have done to the news media, what if this continues to push thru scientific communities?
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Universities don’t all actually stifle free speech. We had Jordan Peterson and a bunch of Conservative MPs speak at our place. There were some protests but hey...that’s their right too. It’s the protests you see but even those can be a sign of a healthy democracy.

Science isn’t political but some people (usually not scientists) try to politicize the findings. That's an important distinction.
 
Prior to covid I'm sure ? politicians seem to have a very high infection rate lately.
 
jc100 said:
Universities don’t all actually stifle free speech. We had Jordan Peterson and a bunch of Conservative MPs speak at our place. There were some protests but hey...that’s their right too. It’s the protests you see but even those can be a sign of a healthy democracy.

Science isn’t political but some people (usually not scientists) try to politicize the findings. That's an important distinction.
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I think the issue at hand is that universities historically have had 45% liberal, 35% moderate, and 20% conservative which was a close representation of the entering student body. Since 2000 there has been a big shift, today's faculty is 60/25/15 with little change to the students coming in.

More importantly the academic mix has drifted way out of alignment with society.

The biggest risks I have read about come lie in poli-sci, humanities, and social sciences which are much more likely to be staffed with liberal faculty. Observers think this biases students perspective, and that without a conservative balance students are deprive of intellectual rigor thereby compromising their education.

Scholarly hogwash to some, food for thought to others.
 
jc100 said:
Universities don’t all actually stifle free speech. We had Jordan Peterson and a bunch of Conservative MPs speak at our place. There were some protests but hey...that’s their right too. It’s the protests you see but even those can be a sign of a healthy democracy.

Science isn’t political but some people (usually not scientists) try to politicize the findings. That's an important distinction.
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not sure if true, but that's pretty silly
 
Saw this earlier parked at Dufferin and Steeles... Sign rolled from the front, down the right side, and then the back of the RV. No idea how much those signs cost, but I imagine it's the same as the whole RV

Stupid iPhone didn't want to adjust to not blow out the bright sign


This is what the sign says

https://twitter.com/x/status/1328866001040060417
 
regder said:
Saw this earlier parked at Dufferin and Steeles... Sign rolled from the front, down the right side, and then the back of the RV. No idea how much those signs cost, but I imagine it's the same as the whole RV

Stupid iPhone didn't want to adjust to not blow out the bright sign


This is what the sign says

https://twitter.com/x/status/1328866001040060417
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Woah, that website is full on crazy. It makes Luckys arguments look balanced, well-researched and well-referenced. I am impressed that they got such a good domain name though.

"The Lord Jesus Christ has now blessed this traveling ministry with a donor who has purchased two larger signs to place on the sides of the motorhome. He has also now purchased a larger generator to power the signs."

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Since they brought up the mark of the beast, one of their posts is "Insider On The 5G Covid Connection". The upside is any website linking 5G to covid is ridiculously easy to rule out as having any connection to reality.
 
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I don't know how to balance "freedom of speech" with "freedom from consequences".

Allow freedom to say anything BUT make the person saying it one hundred percent responsible and liable for EVERY bad thing that can be tied to whatever it was that they said? You post a message like that and host a website like that, and people die because they don't vaccinate? Then you're responsible for murder. I don't know how to make it work.

Censorship? Any statement anywhere on the internet is subject to review by qualified experts in whatever subject matter who have full authority to remove that statement AND everything tied to it or which followed on from it if found to be incorrect?
 
GreyGhost said:
Woah, that website is full on crazy. It makes Luckys arguments look balanced, well-researched and well-referenced. I am impressed that they got such a good domain name though.

"The Lord Jesus Christ has now blessed this traveling ministry with a donor who has purchased two larger signs to place on the sides of the motorhome. He has also now purchased a larger generator to power the signs."

EDIT:
Since they brought up the mark of the beast, one of their posts is "Insider On The 5G Covid Connection". The upside is any website linking 5G to covid is ridiculously easy to rule out as having any connection to reality.
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Wow - that's the first time I ever really looked into vaccines -- I am woefully undereducated!

Until now I thought all vaccines were a gift from the Lord.

Stupid me.
 
Brian P said:
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I don't know how to balance "freedom of speech" with "freedom from consequences".

Allow freedom to say anything BUT make the person saying it one hundred percent responsible and liable for EVERY bad thing that can be tied to whatever it was that they said? You post a message like that and host a website like that, and people die because they don't vaccinate? Then you're responsible for murder. I don't know how to make it work.

Censorship? Any statement anywhere on the internet is subject to review by qualified experts in whatever subject matter who have full authority to remove that statement AND everything tied to it or which followed on from it if found to be incorrect?
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Maybe we need an Internet version of The Purge. 1 day, anybody anywhere can kill any pages.
 
Is it covid19's birthday?
 
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