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Gift certificates/cards are always a bad idea. I constantly push my wife and her family to do cash and what it is intended for. We have had gift cards for the 360 restaurant for over a decade and havent eaten downtown in that time. If it was cash we could re-purpose for a different restaurant.

IIRC the redemption rate for gift cards is 90%. People also sell them at a discount. Cash is universal.
 
Oh good. Everyone can go shopping without a mask and catch up on the missed parties.

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What, I posted it as people might have hope that they have a second company that might have a vaccine.

what part did you read that would get you frustrated?
 
94.5% effective at what? Preventing you from getting it, treating it or killing it, makes a big difference.
Or is it 94.5% of infected people given the drug did not die.
 
Great news with the vaccine but now the issue is...how long are you protected?
I don't think they have even started to use this as a preventative measure :/ last I checked they are only giving it to infected people.
 
94.5% effective at what? Preventing you from getting it, treating it or killing it, makes a big difference.
Or is it 94.5% of infected people given the drug did not die.
Says in the article that it stops the virus, so I’m guessing it stops a person from catching it
 
One of the problems with drug trials on human subjects :/ you can't intentionally infect your test patients to test the effectiveness of a vaccine. You can infect test and kill several thousand monkeys and almost nobody gives a ****. News headlines can and typically are very misleading but it sells stories.
 
I don't think they have even started to use this as a preventative measure :/ last I checked they are only giving it to infected people.
Said on the news it was tested on so many people, forgot the number, but half was given The vaccine and the other half was give fake vaccine
 
How the 90% rating for the Pfizer vaccine math worked. So assume the 94.5% is calculated in the same manner

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Thanks Mike Bakaboy. That guy has cool stuff. Check out this one. If you are in Peel and are exposed to 45 people in the next month, you have a 50% chance of exposure. Holy crap. Even if you were living in lockdown, weekly grocery store visits would expose you to many more people than that.

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Thanks Mike. That guy has cool stuff. Check out this one. If you are in Peel and are exposed to 45 people in the next month, you have a 50% chance of exposure. Holy crap. Even if you were living in lockdown, weekly grocery store visits would expose you to many more people than that.

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Mike?

It's by Ryan. I didnt footnote him since it has his twitter handle in the middle of it.

Yes he does make great data summaries.
 
Mike?

It's by Ryan. I didnt footnote him since it has his twitter handle in the middle of it.

Yes he does make great data summaries.
Sorry, I thought MM posted the link. I hadn't heard of him before and he does a lot of really interesting (and eye-opening) data analysis.

For those concerned about schools, here's an August CBC interview with Ryan regarding schools.
 
(y) awesome math presentation.
but how did 38955 -> 94 :unsure: did they expose the rest of the test cases or was that population added to dilute the results
 
(y) awesome math presentation.
but how did 38955 -> 94 :unsure: did they expose the rest of the test cases or was that population added to dilute the results

You be a smart guy but some days you no listen.

The math provided was for the 90% for the Pfizer vaccine from LAST WEEK.

It has NOTHING to do with the new claim of 94. So 38955 has nothing to do with 94%. I have not seen the math on the new vaccine.

It is my understanding that test subjects are not purposely exposed but are sent on their way to live their normal lives.
 
I understood where your numbers came from completely, it's just not the same thing as normal clinical trials and presentation of scientific results. These are unique times and circumstances.

... for all we know the treatment might be 100% effective and I hope it is that simple.
 
I understood where your numbers came from completely, it's just not the same thing as normal clinical trials and presentation of scientific results. These are unique times and circumstances.

... for all we know the treatment might be 100% effective and I hope it is that simple.

I get old and forgetful but I think I posted a link earlier in this thread that explained the 'how' for the Pfizer trial protocol.
 
I think I was out riding that day ;)
you should come out and we can go riding if you don't have or know anyone with covid otherwise stay away ?
 
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