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@jc100 where do you teach? i gather from your previous posts that you're at the post secondary level...elementary is going to look very different as well, just who knows what that will be...can't see trying to keep over 1,000 kids (which is what we have at my school) socially distant all day...
 
@jc100 where do you teach? i gather from your previous posts that you're at the post secondary level...elementary is going to look very different as well, just who knows what that will be...can't see trying to keep over 1,000 kids (which is what we have at my school) socially distant all day...

We have 24,000 odd students and a big chunk of those would be in residences so it was always going to be a non starter. The big question is....what happens to the winter?
 
We have 24,000 odd students and a big chunk of those would be in residences so it was always going to be a non starter. The big question is....what happens to the winter?

no clue...it's bad enough having to keep them inside on days when the temperature is too cold, they get so antsy and full of energy...and then there's gym class to worry about...and water fountains...and portables with no sinks or classrooms with sinks and freezing cold water...tight hallways...lack of lockers that are beside each other...i can't imagine trying to keep a kindergarten class with close to 30 kids aged 3-5 socially distant...this is going to be one interesting year that's for sure...maybe i need to take early retirement LOL
 
We have 24,000 odd students and a big chunk of those would be in residences so it was always going to be a non starter. The big question is....what happens to the winter?
I suspect post-secondary is online for the year. The interesting question is what happens with international students? Schools really need that money. Will they be willing to fork over $20K+ for online classes or do they want/need physical attendance? I could see res opening up for international students which allows them to spread out.
 
no clue...it's bad enough having to keep them inside on days when the temperature is too cold, they get so antsy and full of energy...and then there's gym class to worry about...and water fountains...and portables with no sinks or classrooms with sinks and freezing cold water...tight hallways...lack of lockers that are beside each other...i can't imagine trying to keep a kindergarten class with close to 30 kids aged 3-5 socially distant...this is going to be one interesting year that's for sure...maybe i need to take early retirement LOL
I strongly suspect at least younger kids will be ~2 days per week to cut the class size in half. God knows what happens the other few days. It is very hard to work with kids around. If the kids are just going to daycare the alternate days, all that happened is cost and hassle have gone up and probably even worse on the spread front.
 
I'm often happy my kids are through school, this just reinforces that.

Sincere best wishes to everyone with school age kids, and those that have to figure out how to work with kids in that environment. And the KooKoo parents.......

Social distance with primary grades would be next to impossible, kindergarten kids pick each others noses.
 
I can just imagine how telling a teacher's union, we're going to cut classes in half, oh, and all pay & benefits too, is going to go.
 
Not smaller by a student or two though, smaller by 50%. That means you either need to double the square footage, halve the time a student is in class, double the teachers hours or a combination of the three.
I'd make the school year round with 2 weeks off in the summer. Kids could go alternating days M-W-F-T-TH on a 2 week rotation with school days 6 hours instead of 5.
 
I'd make the school year round with 2 weeks off in the summer. Kids could go alternating days M-W-F-T-TH on a 2 week rotation with school days 6 hours instead of 5.
You're a funny guy MM. While I agree that is a good and practical approach that makes the best of a crap situation, I can't see that ever happening with the teachers unions.
 
What I find interesting are the certifying bodies/professional organizations in Ontario (and Canada) that refuse (up to this point) to acknowledge online degrees or even individual online courses.

What are they going to do now when they have multiple (three to four years worth) cohorts of grads that took a significant part of their degrees online and by their rules do not qualify for certification/licensing? Will they make them retake those courses in person, will they make an exception just for those grads, will they finally find themselves in the 21st century?
 
I'd make the school year round with 2 weeks off in the summer. Kids could go alternating days M-W-F-T-TH on a 2 week rotation with school days 6 hours instead of 5.

They have that in some schools, even in Ontario (year around programs), you have to search them out. The problems are well known, first there is a large (huge) cost to the taxpayers to install AC in all the old schools--it wasn't needed before. Even many of the ones that do have it don't in the entire school (just select areas, for summer schools or admin areas). Then the extra utility costs of running AC in those schools...

Second, tourist towns require the cheap labour high school students provide in the summer. The economy of places like Niagara would be devastated without it. Not an issue this summer I am sure, but int he following years...
 
They have that in some schools, even in Ontario (year around programs), you have to search them out. The problems are well known, first there is a large (huge) cost to the taxpayers to install AC in all the old schools--it wasn't needed before. Even many of the ones that do have it don't in the entire school (just select areas, for summer schools or admin areas). Then the extra utility costs of running AC in those schools...

Second, tourist towns require the cheap labour high school students provide in the summer. The economy of places like Niagara would be devastated without it. Not an issue this summer I am sure, but int he following years...
The summer labour adds complication but the labour pool is still there just divided. You just need to hire twice as many part time employees (two kids on opposite school schedules for every one before).
 
They have that in some schools, even in Ontario (year around programs), you have to search them out. The problems are well known, first there is a large (huge) cost to the taxpayers to install AC in all the old schools--it wasn't needed before. Even many of the ones that do have it don't in the entire school (just select areas, for summer schools or admin areas). Then the extra utility costs of running AC in those schools...

Second, tourist towns require the cheap labour high school students provide in the summer. The economy of places like Niagara would be devastated without it. Not an issue this summer I am sure, but int he following years...
There should be little impact on labour, remember day on day off -- business would have access to child labour all year long, not just Jul-Aug. Also, the tax payer make work programs would need less funding if you didn't have to put the idle students on the gov't payroll.

As for A/C - I understand however the number of AC schools is greater then the number of AC homes. While it would be expensive to retrofit schools, it's a drop in the bucket with respect to the COVID spending that's gone on lately. JT can pony up a few billion chill dollars.
 
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