Cornering situation

torontobiker125 said:
best advice is to make sure you know the roads you travel. Too many riders dump their bikes going around corners they do know what is around the corner.
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I ride thousands of miles a year and a lot of them are in new areas and on roads I have never been on before. If I ride the same places and the ame roads all the time, the rides would get boreing real fast.
 
No way would I push the instant eject lever at my right foot, that's just plain crazy!

On another note, there is also such a thing as too much weight on the front. Too much weight caused by closing the throttle suddenly+a lot of lean angle+front brakes= face plant.
 
It's pretty hard to use your rear brake in right handers. I've had to get used to doing it on hairpins, though, or the McBain bike will try to flyswat me into the pavement and/or run wide.
 
I had that issue on pirellis, switched to the 200 Dunlop and added some rear ride height and she turns a lot better.
 
dricked: Agreed. Big difference.
 
FriendlyFoe said:
So you're riding to the edges of the tire, riding aggressively enough that you occasionally get bit by a decreasing radius corner, but not getting off the seat? If i'm going to ride on the street like it's a race track id be hanging off, at which point with my knee on the ground the rear brake is not accessible.

You're talking about riding over the limit on roads you dont know, OP is talking about a way of generally managing decreasing radius corners. Just the act of rolling off makes the bike turn in, and shift the weight forward which gives you the opportunity to drag at the brake lever.

Another point is the fact that while it may be physically harder to make a bike change direction under braking, the more you compress the front suspension the quicker the bike will turn as you have reduced trail. Equal speed and lean angle, a bike with the front end compressed will take a tighter line.
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You can easily ride the edge of the tire and not go over the speed limit , do it everyday on my way to work, there is this go around ramp up to the garage ;-)

Everyone of your arguments are full of wrong
 
redridernl said:
That's great but I don't see what that has to do with telling someone to roll off to tighten your line. You want to get weight on the front for corner entry. Rolling off mid-corner is just going to upset everything.
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very true
 
I opened a can o worms. I thinkth I'm ready to do track training. I don't want to end up like infernonuster drawing with crayons and eating out of a straw yet.
 
Or trade my bike in for a can-am so I don't have to lean and the rear brake does the front too. This way I wont low or high side. Just b on the flip side. Wait theses crayons make a great suppositories eh enferiournutster?
 
what ever you decide, get some on road, off-line training. I was a proficient turner before I went to see Lee Parks. but after listening to him and having him show me what to do, I can turn more than twice as tight. and it feels effortless just letting the bike fall into a turn and learning to see the broad picture to slow everything down in your mind. keep reading (I have Parks and Code in my John) and keep taking additional training when pros like that come to town. Then practice what you have read and been told. you will love rather than fear corners.
 
Plasticguy said:
what ever you decide, get some on road, off-line training. I was a proficient turner before I went to see Lee Parks. but after listening to him and having him show me what to do, I can turn more than twice as tight. and it feels effortless just letting the bike fall into a turn and learning to see the broad picture to slow everything down in your mind. keep reading (I have Parks and Code in my John) and keep taking additional training when pros like that come to town. Then practice what you have read and been told. you will love rather than fear corners.
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The Total Control Class Developed by Lee Parks is now a full time fixture in the greater Toronto area with the next classes coming up on July 7th and 8th for Level I and Level II. (I checked last night and there is still some openings for level I on Saturday) This program was a great stepping stone in my riding as well and took me to the next level!
 
Zoltar said:
Or trade my bike in for a can-am so I don't have to lean and the rear brake does the front too. This way I wont low or high side. Just b on the flip side. Wait theses crayons make a great suppositories eh enferiournutster?
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They do? Thanks for the advice .. ( i think)

I'll take your word for it though.
 
Zoltar said:
Or trade my bike in for a can-am so I don't have to lean and the rear brake does the front too. This way I wont low or high side. Just b on the flip side. Wait theses crayons make a great suppositories eh enferiournutster?
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What did u draw him?
 
dammit! :confused5: I have to stop reading this thread!!!:banghead:
If I gonna start thinking about the whatever technique in my next turn - I just never gonna make it again...
 
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