Condo Retards

That dummy had to be wearing a cup
 
Twoth said:
Deductible for an SS: $1000
Monster Chain: $250
Bike still stolen: $1250
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Here is how my last stolen bike added up:

Chain 1: $300
Chain 2: $350
Alarm: $600
Disk Lock: $70
Deductable $1000
Shortfall from insurance on replacing the bike for the exact model again: $2000
Total Losses: $4320 + 2 months waiting for cheque + replacement
Total of items not bothered to be purchased again!!!! (chains, alarms, locks): $1350

Total spent on new security measure (a F'n ramp to drive it into my foyer!!!): $140 (back when I lived in a maisonette)
 
alaywa said:
Here is how my last stolen bike added up:

Chain 1: $300
Chain 2: $350
Alarm: $600
Disk Lock: $70
Deductable $1000
Shortfall from insurance on replacing the bike for the exact model again: $2000
Total Losses: $4320 + 2 months waiting for cheque + replacement
Total of items not bothered to be purchased again!!!! (chains, alarms, locks): $1350

Total spent on new security measure (a F'n ramp to drive it into my foyer!!!): $140 (back when I lived in a maisonette)
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Which chains were you using and what were they chained to?
 
To stop your bike from being stolen you have to think like the thief.

First, they need to know what the bike is, this is where the cover comes in. Now they are forced to walk up to the bike to case it out (lift up the cover). This is where parking the bike at the far end of your spot and the alarm comes in. Basically they will trip the alarm lifting the cover and they have no interest in loitering in the spot if the alarm is going off. Odds are they did not get a really good look, but they know there will be some noise if they look again or come back for the bike. Next is the chain, yes they can cut it without much fuss but it is another step that will slow them down.

Or you can leave the bike in the open so they do not have to be bothered with the above.
 
petieboy said:
Which chains were you using and what were they chained to?
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This:
http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?Scre...2017241&select=0105b02&artikel=4003318522857m

And a chain similar to this but 18mm links:
http://lockitt.com/Lockitt/product/CHOX332.html

And this:
http://www.oxfordlocks.co.uk/

Had a cover too.

Forgot the name of the alarm but it was sensitive to the slightest touch. The vibrations from trying to take off the disk lock, or running the chain through the wheels alone would set it off.

Chained to a lamp post on a residential street, stolen at 2pm with a grinder. Scortch marks on the lamp post.
 
backmarkerducati said:
To stop your bike from being stolen you have to think like the thief.

First, they need to know what the bike is, this is where the cover comes in. Now they are forced to walk up to the bike to case it out (lift up the cover). This is where parking the bike at the far end of your spot and the alarm comes in. Basically they will trip the alarm lifting the cover and they have no interest in loitering in the spot if the alarm is going off. Odds are they did not get a really good look, but they know there will be some noise if they look again or come back for the bike. Next is the chain, yes they can cut it without much fuss but it is another step that will slow them down.

Or you can leave the bike in the open so they do not have to be bothered with the above.
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They don't trip alarms. They lift the cover slightly to expose the back tire. Fat tire = money!

Then they scan the alarm frequency and disable it in under 2 mins. This is usually done from inside the van so no one suspects them. Grinder cuts any lock in under 30 seconds. On the van in another 30 seconds.
 
This was posted on another thread...looks extremely promissing. If you position it right up to the wall so that it is even difficult to get the key into the lock, and bolt it down on the inside this could be a very very effective solution. They would need time to even study it and with the wheel in it, in dim lighting i'm thinking that would eat up valuable time. Cover + this = best thing I have seen to date.

Some even suggest having it fabricated by a local welder to get it locally and cheap. If you want to add some weight to it, pour concrete in the base too. Make the bike 800lbs to lift if your condo wont let you bold it down.

http://www.propastuff.co.uk/Product.asp?Code=PLS320
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alaywa said:
The best advice is "out of sight, out of mind". Hide your valuables as best you can!
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As much as I agree with the rest of your post, this part is misleading at best. "Security by obscurity" works only partially and only in conjunction with other methods - it's never a good idea to rely on it alone. I'm not advocating flaunting your expensive possessions, but I wouldn't go out of my way to hide them either. It's OK if it's out of sight of thieves, but it's counter-productive if it's out of mine too.

Case in point, there was a spot at the bottom of my condo garage (third level underground) that only a bike would fit in. It was so secluded that even people parking on the same level wouldn't notice if a big bike was there. I don't think even security guards ever looked in that corner and the management company didn't know it existed until I told them. It was also not covered by the security camera and just steps from the fire exit. It wouldn't be very hard for a determined thief to find where the bike is and the location would give him as much time as he needed to do the deed and ride out on the bike like it was his. The owner wouldn't know until deliberately going down to check on the bike and there would be no camera footage, except for a person in dark clothes and a helmet riding out of the garage. therefore, I parked my bike right next to the garage entrance that is well lit, frequently visited/patrolled and covered with a good security camera. Not that anyone would steal my bike, but I'd do the same if it was a brand new suopersport.

Another, opposite case is a neighbor who had three locks and dog knows how many alarms on his condo door. His was the only door on the entire floor that stood out like it was actually protecting something of great value, even though I'm pretty sure he was just paranoid and didn't have much worth stealing. Guess what? They came in over the balcony and touched the door only when it was time to leave. The big-*** 180 degree spy-eye helped them scout the corridor before they got out mostly empty-handed. Ransacked the place pretty bad looking for money/gold/weapons that weren't there :(. It would be better if the owner just left whatever of value he had on the dining room table.
 
alaywa said:
This was posted on another thread...looks extremely promissing.
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This is only as good as it's padlock, and I'm willing to bet that a good grinder or bolt cutters will get it open before you can say "useless overkill".
 
Vlad said:
Liability only for a 1200cc bike: $700
Additional security: $0
Not needing theft insurance because no thief would steal a dirty 10 year old naked/standard: Priceless
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Not to mention the Givi boxes are an added theft deterrent, makes it look slower. :P
 
i've made ten posts and i'm calling ppl who have lost their bikes in their condo retards.... how cool am i? There's way's to go about things which you'll soon learn on the forum... Tone it down some cuz right now, no matter how valid "just get a big *** chain" argument is, you're hard to take seriously. if a theif wants it, it's gone. And buy an older bike isn't really appealing to most. cheers
 
I agree that it's organized crime. My guess is they have an in at the MTO. They are likely jotting down plate numbers while you're at your local Timmies. They give the plate numbers to the "in." The "in" gives them the address. If it's a condo, it's more likely a go. I find it hard to believe that Theft Insurance, while absolutely necessary is the "only" answer.

It'll be interesting to see all the "My Bike Was Just Stolen..." threads coming, and ask how many of them had the chain mentioned in the OP. Grinding through a chain that thick and hardened is going to cause a lot of noise. Add the acoustics of an underground, and it's a lot of noise! Thieves may have a lot of tricks, but a "silent grinder" you won't find anywhere.
 
Motorcycle Condo Theft

Detective talks about condo theft:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rcY5iKojDY

Attempted theft on an R1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0bhZtc3mlA

CCTV footage of bike being stolen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aSVMu9Xb2A

CCTV footage of bike being stolen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242GixieKHI

CCTV footage of bike being stolen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEOfMOnbUAU

CCTV footage of bike being stolen (sting?):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0VkTxu4Ccg

CCTV footage of bike being stolen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMVtKYBt5Q0

Part two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_mJVllxKI

Tools of the trade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA_jjRR6Pww

Cyclone Alarm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNNBUkHWKPw

Facebook Group for stolen motorcycles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihXnUPj5qgk
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