Is that a bad thing?
Being nice isn't working so what's there to lose?
The trouble is that with all the fake bad *** Timmie riders out there no one worries about revenge from a satanic M/C club anymore.
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Close call, Got me thinking.............
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Is that a bad thing?
Being nice isn't working so what's there to lose?
The trouble is that with all the fake bad *** Timmie riders out there no one worries about revenge from a satanic M/C club anymore.
What there is to lose, is the privilege of riding a motorcycle. Too many of you don't seem to realize that there are a lot more of 'them', than there are of 'us.' You want to strike fear into them? Dress like a 1%er. You might start having issues with police stopping you every 10 metres, but car drivers will show you more respect (fear).
Police make noises that people should report bad drivers, all the time. Do it. If they do something, then it's a win. If they don't then call them on it, showing that programmes like Road Watch are nothing more than a placebo.
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I don't ride a motorcycle on the street anymore but I still encounter my fair share of dumbassery while on my road bike (bicycle). One would think that if i can do 45kph in certain 50-zones that people wouldn't need to be in a super big rush to get past me.. but some still are. One would think that they could stay behind me if they're coming up to an intersection and need to make a right turn but some still pass me then immediately signal then brake.. forcing me to slow down so they can make their turn.
People are selfish, oblivious morons. Giving them any credit is giving them too much credit, they're all out to kill you even though they don't mean to.
People are selfish, oblivious morons. Giving them any credit is giving them too much credit, they're all out to kill you even though they don't mean to.
suspeck
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y u mad though?
There was an element of tongue in cheek because all we see from enforcement is the same old same old.
As far as the aggression and mirror kicking goes it's a little too high risk for my tastes (Good stories though). The cager typically would face charges under the HTA and they are short term (fines and insurance hits). Retaliation by threats and deliberate damage would fall under the criminal code with permanent records affecting jobs and border crossing etc.
There have been cases of guys losing punch ups at clubs and returning with their SUVs to even the score. A couple of deaths IIRC. Motorcycles don't do well at demolition derbies.
I don't expect positive change as half of the drivers would lose their licences if tested to decent standards. That would mean half the auto jobs disappearing. Not going to happen. Public transit couldn't carry the load so half the other workers would be SOL as well.
I adjust by heading out to Amish country. I figure my Goldwing weighs about as much as a horse so I at least have a fighting chance.
Bottom line: If you don't drive a three ton SUV get used to being collateral damage.
Good. Maybe they'll have the sense to avoid us then :agave:
I agree its ineffective to preach that drivers should simply start seeing bikers. However, there seems to be a general consensus amongst motorists that its ok to think of motorcyclists as invisible, and that if we dont take enough precautions and dress ourselves up like x-mas ornaments then we deserve to be hit. Even in a safety video I watched not to long ago the cop, or whoever, was telling drivers that its hard to see motorcyclists and that they should "be careful of them". Its not metapysical. We're not ghosts. Cagers either A) Dont look, and B) When they do look, dont always consider us "real" vehicles, deserving of space, or C) are homicidally selfish drivers. I find any emphasis on the visibility of the biker over the responsibility of cagers to LOOK before hammering themselves into a lane ludicrous. Pragmatic and necessary as it is for riders to consider and prioritize these things in order to survive, the responsibilty, in general, is the cagers to look where they are going. I'm 180 pounds of man, and 600 pounds of machine. I'm not friggin invisible. Unless I'm driving like an @ssh0le there is no excuse for why i'm being run off the road by anyone.
So I agree, the emphasis in educating the public needs to focus on bad drivers, not invisible riders.
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HarleyHare
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This does work. It happened to me.
I received a letter from the police informing me that I almost ran down a pedestrian at such-and-such intersection and the pedestrian reported my cage license number to them. As a violations-free and accident free driver/rider this came as a complete shock as I still don't know the incident and don't know how I even came close to doing that.
But as a rider I know you need to be much more vigilent than the average driver and always check and double check conditions, as well as looking out for avoidance/escape tactics, just in case.
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