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I had a guy show up at the shop with an e-bike (which I summarily chased away).
His Chinesium helmet was so flimsy I could almost take the sides and squeeze them together to touch.
No DOT sticker, no nothing.
I tried to explain, he ignored me - its his head...
 
Even when you find the factory making helmets for brand x , when the knock off part starts one of the first things they will work on is foam specs for brand x is this , but we can get cheaper foam, the fabric for brand x is this , but we can get cheaper fabric liners . Brand x insists we use a biaxial fiberglass scrim , but we can use this .
It may say Shoei and share parts and maybe come out of the same mold . But somewhere the Chinese have figured out how to make it look right and cost less.
They will build to whatever quality level you want to pay for , but you have to watch them closely.
The generators that were being sold in Canada two years ago had a CSA sticker on them . But not a real CSA sticker …


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Even when you find the factory making helmets for brand x , when the knock off part starts one of the first things they will work on is foam specs for brand x is this , but we can get cheaper foam, the fabric for brand x is this , but we can get cheaper fabric liners . Brand x insists we use a biaxial fiberglass scrim , but we can use this .
It may say Shoei and share parts and maybe come out of the same mold . But somewhere the Chinese have figured out how to make it look right and cost less.
They will build to whatever quality level you want to pay for , but you have to watch them closely.
The generators that were being sold in Canada two years ago had a CSA sticker on them . But not a real CSA sticker …


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"cheap" is not always good!
 
inexpensive and good. As long as they are certified it's features, fit ( comfort) and price. 58 years of riding and never a come off on pavement ...I used to ride aggressively and wear a Bell star. I ride very conservatively and wear a Shark EVOline 3, I was quite happy with a $189 AFX 55
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If I had it in Australia I'd still be using it . I don't buy into for one second just change your helmet every 3 years marketing con.
AFX customer service was excellent when one of the fasteners worked loose on a trip in BC ( always take duct tape ) and they shipped me two to Nanaimo to pick up. I think maybe still the best visor for FoV.
The Evoline3 is not perfect but is certified for both FF and Open face....the AFX was a 3/4 in the testers view.....The chin bar not substantial. The Shark for both.
 
Forget businesses, governments won't touch them. Because we held a probable criminal for the US, a few Canadians were kidnapped and we were entirely powerless to do anything other than hopes and prayers.
Not powerless. Just don't or at least limit Chinese purchases and their substandard products. I know it's not easy and it's often tempting but the more disciplined we are at reading the "made in Canada" ect label the better off we're going to be.
Just my 2 cents
I'll get off my soap box now lol
 
Not powerless. Just don't or at least limit Chinese purchases and their substandard products. I know it's not easy and it's often tempting but the more disciplined we are at reading the "made in Canada" ect label the better off we're going to be.
Just my 2 cents
I'll get off my soap box now lol
I was more talking about government intervention. As consumers, we can make daily choices that may have some effect over a long period of time. Government could make an instantaneous change that is felt today (but wont).
 
I would gladly buy product "not made in China" . Regretably there is often no vialble option, and I honestly think many of the rah rah buy North American gang will vote with thier wallet when its many dollars less to take the import.
 
I would gladly buy product "not made in China" . Regretably there is often no vialble option, and I honestly think many of the rah rah buy North American gang will vote with thier wallet when its many dollars less to take the import.
Most people won't pay 500 when the china version is 100 and actually works 95 percent as well.

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Just don't or at least limit Chinese purchases and their substandard products
they said that about Japan ....there are sub standard products everywhere and top notch products out of China. Do your homework and make your decision. I'll always support the country I live in products if equal or better within 10% ...tho things like produce I'd really prefer Canada to Mexico mainly due to both shipping costs and "support your local farmer".

Motorcycle gear the forums I think are better than reviews. Too cozy between manufacturers....best is reports from users.
 
I don't buy into for one second just change your helmet every 3 years marketing con.
I think most companies recommend changing your helmet after 5 years. I think that is for people that ride all the time. Most helmets today allow you to take out the pads and lining to clean them, but very few people do that. If you do that on a regular basis your helmet should last longer. All the sweat and oils that your head deposits begin to deteriorate the inside of the helmet. Keeping it clean will allow you to wear that helmet longer, and it will smell better. On the China thing, I think over 70% of all helmets are made in China.
 
This a real LS2 or a China copy? The fact that it has a manufacture date leans towards real LS2 as China wouldn't care to leave such evidence:



The guy formerly known as Mladin.
 
Looks original to me.
Padding he's pulling out - there's decent amount of oily residue, so helmet probably was worn for some time, and perhaps not cared for too much... That alone doesn't excuse the wear and tear... but that guy is annoying to listen to :)
 
So if you rip it apart and smash it it is no good? Very enlightening pretty sure same would happen with any helmet.

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basis your helmet should last longer. All the sweat and oils that your head deposits begin to deteriorate the inside of the helmet.
Closed cell EPS foam does not deteriorate.
The removable stuff sure but the shell and foam does not.
The lifespan of EPS is long, potentially unlimited.
i'd wear my 40 year old Bell Star and feel just as safe as far as impact goes as my current Shark helmet. Maybe more as the Star is such a tank. I'd never get into these days.Bell Star Classic


Motorcycle Bluetooth Helmet Liners,Liners Suitable for FreedConn BM2-S, Padding for BM2-S, Padding for FreedConn Helmet, Liners for FreedConn Helmet  (Liner(Large)) : AutomotiveThe pads and liner deteriorate and even in my case the D-rings corrode due to the climate but this con about replacing helmets so quickly is
a) manufacturers covering their ***** with legalese
b) marketing to make you buy regularly.

This is what should be in EVERY helmet - MIPS

How does a MIPS motorcycle helmet work?​

The idea is fairly simple and takes the Arai glancing off theory and runs with it. If a helmet has a head-on impact with an object, the EPS is designed to absorb as much of this shock as it possibly can. The thing is, this type of impact on a helmet is quite rare.

Mips brain protection system

Most impacts involve the lid hitting the ground or another object at an oblique angle. In these impacts, the EPS liner is less effective and can in some cases transfer a kind of twisting and turning motion into the rider’s head. It’s this action that some doctors believe can cause serious brain injury in riders. That’s what the MIPS system looks to prevent. Think of it as a shock absorber for your brain, allowing the head to move inside the helmet just a fraction more than if no BPS was being used.

Mips brain protection system

You won’t be able to buy a MIPS lid directly off the company, instead, they will be supplying motorcycle helmet manufacturers who will use the tech in their own designs. Check out some of the Bell Helmets range for some MIPS equipped kit.
 
So JT has said no to Huawei for our 5G network. Thought for sure he would knuckle under.
 
Closed cell EPS foam does not deteriorate.
The removable stuff sure but the shell and foam does not.

i'd wear my 40 year old Bell Star and feel just as safe as far as impact goes as my current Shark helmet. Maybe more as the Star is such a tank. I'd never get into these days.
Yes they do wear out.If you are going to make claims like that,then back them up with proof.Most of the world won't agree with your claims,so i'm not going to provide you with data that proves you wrong.Your reasoning is the same as the darksiders."but car tires are safer".....no they are just cheaper.Like 40 year old helmets.
 

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