Center stand advice..

Just a comment about centre stand being better on soft asphalt - I disagree. The stand can still sink and you can't use a puck to protect it.
Yes, but it will only sink up until the rear tire touches the ground. With a side stand it will sink until the handlebars touch the ground!
 
Strength is not a factor in using a centre stand. I say this because I have no physical strength whatsoever and I always use them on every bike that has them. I don't even think about it, so this explanation will kinda suck, but the centre stand itself acts as a lever - all you really have to worry about is both sides of the centre stand touching down (bike is perpendicular to the ground). Any problems you could have with a centre stand will come from using it on ground that is not level.

P.S. Or wacky hijinx from a previous owner - for example, flipping over the eccentric chain adjusters on a Kawi. Sometimes the rear wheel will then still touch the ground even ON the centre stand.
 
Strength is not a factor in using a centre stand. I say this because I have no physical strength whatsoever and I always use them on every bike that has them. I don't even think about it, so this explanation will kinda suck, but the centre stand itself acts as a lever - all you really have to worry about is both sides of the centre stand touching down (bike is perpendicular to the ground). Any problems you could have with a centre stand will come from using it on ground that is not level.

P.S. Or wacky hijinx from a previous owner - for example, flipping over the eccentric chain adjusters on a Kawi. Sometimes the rear wheel will then still touch the ground even ON the centre stand.

I think it might be an issue with uneven ground. When I first tried it at the sellers, I had a hard time but eventually got it. Failed today completely, and it's on some not completely level patio stones. Is stable on the side stand with front wheel turned, but frustrating I couldn't get it! I think I was unconciously trying not to keep the bike upright, but leaned a bit to me as a comfort thing (it's not going to tip over onto the other side if I keep it closer to me!). Going to wheel it back onto the parking pad and try it there. Probably tomorrow morning, as I've got it locked up already. And my shoulders are killing me. :P
 
This is how I get mine up on the center stand.

-go to the side stand side of the bike
-bike in neutral
-one hand on the bars, other hand on the passenger foot peg bracket
-push down on the center stand until I feel one side of it touch the ground
-stand the bike up and keep pushing down on the center stand until If feel booth sides touch the ground
-stand up on the center stand while pulling up with the rear hand holding the passenger peg bracket

Let your weight on the center stand do the lifting. I manage to get the wee fully loaded for touring off the ground without any issue. If you are in the west end and want some help let me know.

For puck I just use the top of a frozen juice can. That why when I forget to pick it up before I pull away I'm not very concerned.
 
When I tried it last, it felt like it would be easier if I pushed it a bit away from me like you're describing - but I'm so godamn paranoid about dropping the bike.. Maybe if I try this with a friend standing on the other side in case I lean it to far they can help me right it..

Felt crazy but it really made the difference in how easy it was to get it up. It won't tip over as long as the stand is touching the ground.
 
You don't to buy one of those fancy sidestand plates. Crushed pop cans are free.
 
You don't to buy one of those fancy sidestand plates. Crushed pop cans are free.

Or frozen concentrated juice can tops. I used to carry 5-6 with me as they were small, light and I could afford to lose/give away a couple.
 
As others have mentioned, it is critical to have both feet of the centerstand on the ground. This means the bike is in a straight vertical position. You mention you perhaps having it leaning in abit toward you for safety sake. This is where you are defeating yourself. With both feet down and the bike centered, it is going to feel like it may go over to the right but it won't. Hold the handlebar and the frame by the rear wheel, step down on the centerstand and the bike will seem to jump up on to the stand. Find an absolutely hard flat spot to practice on and practice, practice. You will get it.
 
I always found getting it off the centre stand much trickier. I let my first bike lean away from me once and dropped it (on a curb). That definitely scarred me! My heart would race the next few times I had to do maintenance.

Not trying to freak you out or anything. :D
 
I always found getting it off the centre stand much trickier. I let my first bike lean away from me once and dropped it (on a curb). That definitely scarred me! My heart would race the next few times I had to do maintenance.

Not trying to freak you out or anything. :D

Sit on the bike when dropping it off the centre stand and you won't have any problems. Getting it off while standing beside the bike is just asking to drop it.
 
Yup sit on the bike (it is stable enough to climb on with the center stand), rock forward and away you go.
 
I always found getting it off the centre stand much trickier. I let my first bike lean away from me once and dropped it (on a curb). That definitely scarred me! My heart would race the next few times I had to do maintenance.

Not trying to freak you out or anything. :D

Eek! See that part I've got down no problem. I'll get there I swear!
 
This is how I get mine up on the center stand.

-go to the side stand side of the bike
-bike in neutral
-one hand on the bars, other hand on the passenger foot peg bracket
-push down on the center stand until I feel one side of it touch the ground
-stand the bike up and keep pushing down on the center stand until If feel booth sides touch the ground
-stand up on the center stand while pulling up with the rear hand holding the passenger peg bracket

Let your weight on the center stand do the lifting. I manage to get the wee fully loaded for touring off the ground without any issue. If you are in the west end and want some help let me know.

For puck I just use the top of a frozen juice can. That why when I forget to pick it up before I pull away I'm not very concerned.

I am in the west end! If I can't get it once I've got it moved into level surface, I'll harass for help, thank you!
 
Both hands on handle bar works for me. Right foot on the stand, apply body weight as you start pulling. You can rock the bike to give momentum. It's all physics, not that much strength required. Just proper angles and coordination. Practice makes perfect.

Car tire rubber (from the tread) makes good pads for the kick stand. Beats paying 5 bucks for a 5 cent piece of plastic. ;)
 
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