CBR 125 uphill?

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MLadin said:
Enlightening input. What's more dangerous...going fast And not being able to handle it or not being able to jet out of a bad situation?
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I'm sure new riders would have more trouble handling the power vs using it to get out of bad situations. There are other ways to get out of the way rather than gun it.

01cbr said:
Get some riding experience and you wont need hp to get you out of situations.

Cant believe a guy who post about running from cops/ not needing insurance is posting about how dangerous a small bike is on the highway.

I will ride a cbr 125 on any GTA highway at any time of day. Id ride my ktm set up for single track on the highway if it was legal.
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I actually run in to more people not paying attention on city streets vs the highway.

&&... Lol at running from cops and not needing insurance being much more safe than riding a small displacement bike on the highway.

MLadin said:
Not knocking their choices, just giving new riders sound advice. If you want to go slow for kicks and live dangerously that's your choice. Waste of money and waste of time that could be used on a real motorcycle getting real experience.
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Lol major contradiction there. You, my friend, have made yourself look like an idiot in 1 day for the year that you've been on this forum.
 
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I would really opt for the 250 for $800. Its a great bike and makes plenty of power for a 250. Take both for a ride and decide yourself
 
MacDoc said:
that's absolutely correct - not a chance - that's ski hill turf - even in Aus with no snow and a coastal range 20% on a paved road is extreme.

A 45 degree slope is 100% grade.

This is a grade to degree converter.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/slope-degrees-gradient-grade-d_1562.html

A 125 will climb any paved hill in Ontario in first gear.
This from cyclists



So Rattlesnake at 14 degrees gets about a 24% grade.



These guys have on board computers that measure the grade.

These are the world's steepest streets

http://googlesightseeing.com/2009/06/the-worlds-steepest-streets/
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Good info. Rattlesnake Point requires a momentary downshift to 1st on every motorcycle that I own. It's not just the slope, but the combination of slope while making a hard right with visibility through the corner blocked by trees, plus typical sand and water found in that corner, that forces the safe speed below what can be done in 2nd. The 180 degree hairpin (left, going uphill) isn't the problem, it's the hard 90 degree right that follows. Again, it's no problem to do it on the 125, it just needs that momentary squirt in 1st gear on that second left. (For what it's worth, the ZX10R also wants 1st gear there.)
 
PLau said:
I'm sure new riders would have more trouble handling the power vs using it to get out of bad situations. There are other ways to get out of the way rather than gun it.



I actually run in to more people not paying attention on city streets vs the highway.

&&... Lol at running from cops and not needing insurance being much more safe than riding a small displacement bike on the highway.



Lol major contradiction there. You, my friend, have made yourself look like an idiot in 1 day for the year that you've been on this forum.
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Another keyboard warrior. Who's made himself look like an idiot? You changed the wording of my post and quoted it. I highly doubt you'd call me any idiot in person.

OP don't waste your money on 125 toys. Get yourself a decent motorcycle that will give you actual motorcycle experience.
 
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Brian P said:
If your hypothesis is that a motorcyclist requires an excess of horsepower in order to be safe, then how come my liter bike (I'm no stranger to high-powered bikes) costs 4 times as much to insure??
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A motorcycle needs "sufficient" power to operate on a highway. There should be minimum cc/ hp requirements to operate a motorcycle on a highway.
 
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01cbr said:
Get some riding experience and you wont need hp to get you out of situations.

Cant believe a guy who post about running from cops/ not needing insurance is posting about how dangerous a small bike is on the highway.

I will ride a cbr 125 on any GTA highway at any time of day. Id ride my ktm set up for single track on the highway if it was legal.
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Riding a motocross on private property doesn't require insurance.
 
It isn't the power I'm concerned about at all. I've ridden my friends CBR 1000rr around the city.
Although I love the adrenaline, just being on a bike and riding is all I want too feel. There's nothing quite like it.

It's cost that's my only problem. Insurance is about $350 cheaper on a 125 compared too a 250. Not to mention my commute is around > 10 km and peace of mind for my parents. My mom thinks everyone on a motorcycle will eventually crash and have life threatening injuries.

I think for a season I'll enjoy(or suck up) riding a 125 and once my insurance gets lower ill start moving up.
 
The rest of the world works fine with Graduated licencing, a smaller CC bike is far more easier to learn on.

I have no idea how someone can find riding a 1000cc on our streets remotely exciting, a few years ago it was fun to ride a big bike, but with the new laws it's must be like watching paint dry trying to stay HTA172 clean.
 
You will have no issues on any of Grimsby's three hills. Just gear down before you hit the grade and keep the revs up. Done it on a CBR125R, GN125, as well as a kitted moped. Enjoy the small displacement bike but know its limitations.
 
I think for a season I'll enjoy(or suck up) riding a 125 and once my insurance gets lower ill start moving up.
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smart move. But did you check around on insurance.....they are all over the map.
 
MLadin said:
A motorcycle needs "sufficient" power to operate on a highway. There should be minimum cc/ hp requirements to operate a motorcycle on a highway.
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There is a minimum. Can't be registered as a limited speed motorcycle. A cbr125 is capable of exceeding all posted speed limits! You are never supposed to exceed 100 km/h, riiiiiight?

If the province does what's right and raises 400 speed limits to what they should be (130 km/h) then I'll change my tune. Not holding my breath.
 
Jayv said:
The rest of the world works fine with Graduated licencing, a smaller CC bike is far more easier to learn on.

I have no idea how someone can find riding a 1000cc on our streets remotely exciting, a few years ago it was fun to ride a big bike, but with the new laws it's must be like watching paint dry trying to stay HTA172 clean.
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Beat me to it...plenty of extremely good riders started on 125s with no problem in many countries. When I was riding in the uk there was no stigma about cc size, only over here does size really matter to people. I used to ride across my college grounds on a 50cc 2 stroke dirt bike for ***** and giggles and people were still envious of the bike I had.
 
Makarios said:
Hey just a quick question about the 125. Just curious on how the bike handles going uphill.
I live on the Grimsby mountain so I have about a 1KM stretch of just uphill riding to get to my house. Ranges all the way up too around 40 degrees (if not for most of the way)

I saw a video on youtube of a guy trying to go up a smaller hill and he couldnt get past 33 km/h. I'm a little hesitant because I've got a 125 lined up for very cheap and there's no point in getting it if I can't even make it up a hill! :P

Cliffs
Can the 125 make it up a 1KM stretch of mountain (40 degree angle)

Thank you for your help
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Hey OP, i have a ninja 250 and a few friends with 125's

if you are worried about the 125 making up the hill, rent one for a few hours and try your route out, see how you like it!

in my opinion if you are going to be doing mostly city or country roads 125 is fine. i have a friend who rides his 125 cbr 2up a lot and seems fine.

if you are going to be adding in the 400 series, the 250 would be a better choice. It easily makes it's way up to 160 not tucked and 140 with a passenger.

Also, as someone suggested before, always check the insurance rates first; 125 to 250 is not a big difference but a difference nonetheless.

Good luck with whichever decision you make.
 
jc100 said:
Beat me to it...plenty of extremely good riders started on 125s with no problem in many countries. When I was riding in the uk there was no stigma about cc size, only over here does size really matter to people. I used to ride across my college grounds on a 50cc 2 stroke dirt bike for ***** and giggles and people were still envious of the bike I had.
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It's pure pain riding a liter bike these days with HTA172. But I've figured out a system to beat it :-)

You mention "two stroke" and I'm envious. Nothing like two stroke power!
 
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To the OP,

Ride what you want to ride. A co-worker just got his M1 and is doing the rti at the end of the month. We looked at bikes together and I strongly recommended a 250-300 instead of a 600ss. He has decided on the Ninja 300 which will serve him well. I would ride with him if he had the cbr 125.

Enjoy the 125 and at some point you will likely move on to a 250, 500 or whatever.

Get the 125, be safe, and have fun. I will happily head to Hamilton if you want someone to ride with.

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MLadin said:
Another keyboard warrior. Who's made himself look like an idiot? You changed the wording of my post and quoted it. I highly doubt you'd call me any idiot in person.
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I changed AND pointed out the wording that I changed because a new rider on a liter bike (or a "real bike" in your words) would have more to worry about than having enough power.

I do not have a problem calling people idiots to their face (unless they're a cop or my boss). I also pointed out that you contradicted yourself in your post.

Sounds like your ego was bruised.
 
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