Turn signals? Most bikes I see don't have any turn signals at all and it's even rarer to actually see them used unless they've forgotten to cancel it after they used it once 10 minutes ago. Lol
CBC Article - Motorcycle deaths could hit 7-year high, OPP says
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Meanwhile south of the border.
http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/01/07/ama-motorcyclist-fatalities-injuries-decline-in-2013/
http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/01/07/ama-motorcyclist-fatalities-injuries-decline-in-2013/
What's new? It's always that speeding guy's fault. Let's charge him with rape and attempted murder, screw stunting. Everyone knows that speed kills. And think of the children!
Meanwhile let's ignore all the drivers running red lights because they are in such a rush that waiting 30 seconds would kill them. Speed traps are an easier cash cow to milk so we'll stick with those.
Meanwhile let's ignore all the drivers running red lights because they are in such a rush that waiting 30 seconds would kill them. Speed traps are an easier cash cow to milk so we'll stick with those.
In an ideal world, we should have an R type license that requires completion of a track school to register any super sport. Holders of said license should also be above the law for speed limits.
........and of course that would obliterate the market for SS bikes 8)
You mean like what the old continent does with their learners permit? Restricting max HP that can be ridden.
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If this happens, ppl will be waiting for the next school that sell certificates without attendance
IMO, a fine system should not focus on limiting, but educating, as in Germany, where you have to do 20hrs in class for theory before you can sit behind any type of wheel.
phil_si
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I think it would be great if there were more restrictions to getting high HP bikes, but the ministry is currently set up to handle engine size, so I think it would be reasonably feasible, keeping in mind that the average person there knows NOTHING about motorcycles, and probably doesn't care to.
Roomie
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I think there should be more steps perhaps. I wouldn't want someone riding for 18 months on something with 45 hp jumping on a busa on the same roads I'm riding. That said I think the m1 is too short and you should definitely be limited to what you can ride while having one.
Stay living in onterrible. They have a restriction for most. It's called rip off extortion rate insurance. Biggest load of crap going next to Harper.
theassassin
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I see statistics from time to time that attempt to paint a negative perception of a certain demographic in motorcycling over the last 30 years or so. Where police and government would like us to believe that machine size and young riders are responsible for more deaths, they aren't. This seems to me that these reports are about as meaningful as the "crackdowns" that the Opp announce from time to time. Does those crackdowns reduce the targeted bad drivers each time they do them? No, they don't, so why do they keep doing them? The answer is FEAR. The police are power hungry control freaks who thirst for power and control. They work for the government and insurance companies to provide increased revenue and reduce risk to a ridiculous extent. If they were truly concerned about safety they would get serious about getting BAD drivers off the road such as those that enter the highway doing 60 km/h causing havoc and sitting in the left lane doing 100. Remember that statistics can be made to show anything, even the truth. If the OPP can paint a half baked picture of death statistics and the top crook Kathleen Wynne hears about it, we'll have additional laws similar to the redundant stunt driving laws that penalize anyone doing anything other than living a boring life like a bunch of good sheep should. I believe that if we lived in a truly "free" country, the police would not be allowed to announce that they will be focusing their efforts on any segment of the population for whatever reason, including the driving public who are no more apt to do something illegal during the crackdown times than any other time. They even announce crackdowns when the weather gets warm in the spring fer chrisake! The public is being conditioned little by little to relinquish our freedoms by the police and government. I'm not paranoid or a conspiracy nut, I just see this country being a different place than when I grew up. In that canada, the police state that occurred during the G20 would have been answered with the arrest of government officials and every police officer not wearing a name tag and badge number.
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Not sure what the argument is here. Are you saying that the government should allow drivers/riders to do what they want on a public road? The system has problems but the police have their part to play.
Most Police Officers are good people doing the best that they can in usually bad situations; treat them the way that you want to be treated (respect) and the interaction may end more to your liking.
theassassin
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If you paid attention to what i said, your reply would have said that the system has it's problems and the police play their part. My opinion is about my own personal experience with police repeatedly lying in court. I now believe that "bike cop" has a better understanding of how the police are viewed by some members of the public who see a major problem with their integrity. I don't believe that I even began to approach the idea that anyone can do as they wish on the roads. Please pay attention to my point.
rbjeepthing
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The country isn't really any different now vs 20 years ago. You just tend to hear about issues more easily through social media outlets. The internet has done wonders but it also allows anyone with an online account and a keyboard to share what they feel right or wrong.
theassassin
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I don't agree with you. I think that the what the police did at the G20 was a criminal disgrace by hiding their identities and I view my country as now being very different because of it. I have a different view of the police because of it and the lies they've stated in court in my presence.
Your dislike of anyone being able to post their opinion on the Internet is a little odd considering you say that canada is still the same place as it was 20 years ago. It echoes of diminishing freedom, forgive me if I misunderstood you.
I recall a cop I was fighting a ticket (driving my car) against in court who was out in the hall with me and a few others and he was ticked off that I'd brought a paralegal to fight a stop sign ticket. He said that people with money are the ones who get the breaks. I thought that was the most arrogant thing a cop could say in a court house. Apparently poppi doesn't believe in my right to due process so everyone should be guilty as charged. It shows the mentality at work around us and that no one should stand up to lying cops.The crown was very unhappy about withdrawing the BS charge.
If you don't like the fact that everyone has their own opinion then why would you participate in a forum whose members are more outspoken than other past times?
rbjeepthing
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You misunderstood me or read my post wrong as I never said "I don't like the fact that everyone has their own opinion". I'm not sure how to better word the fact that a large percentage of stories online and in the media these days only tell part of the story and are biased. The mob mentality also takes over and the real truth gets lost.
To be honest I don't have a clue what to believe anymore as the credibility of every person and every news outlet has been questioned and proven wrong at some point. I try to read as much as possibly then take a small percentage of that into my own judgement.
Personally I think anyone who was downtown during the G20 in the areas in which there were issues or possible issues should have never been there. I know if I lived there I would have made arrangements to be away during that time or if I worked there voiced my concerns with my employer. Everybody was warned that there were going to be issues. Yes what the government did was wrong as well but people didn't need to add to the fire. The only thing to come out of the whole situation is more ****** off people on both sides which means no winning.
theassassin
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When it comes to rolling the dice on whether you're about to deal with a cop who is or isn't a liar, less people are willing to take that risk because there has been so many cops doing the wrong thing lately.
I'm going to quote part or one of your previous posts: "This seems to me that these reports are about as meaningful as the "crackdowns" that the Opp announce from time to time. Does those crackdowns reduce the targeted bad drivers each time they do them? No, they don't, so why do they keep doing them? The answer is FEAR." What are you saying here?
Just because you have the right of "due process" doesn't mean that you are "right or innocent". The police officer saw you "committing" an HTA infraction and gave you a ticket; if you were him why wouldn't you be annoyed with people that argue against the charge. You are annoyed with people arguing against your post! When I was a Driver Examiner with the MTO everyone would argue when I reminded them of the HTA infraction or infractions which they committed during their driving/riding test; did you expect me to not be annoyed with these individuals? Maybe if they wanted to pass their driving test these individuals should have avoided the illegal action/s or at the very least not argue when the information is presented to them or even worse call me "a liar". As I said earlier, most police officers are good people but there are bad ones just like you find in any group. You having a negative view of a whole group will predispose you to act in a particular fashion and this can limit the outcome in any interaction.
Just because you have the right of "due process" doesn't mean that you are "right or innocent". The police officer saw you "committing" an HTA infraction and gave you a ticket; if you were him why wouldn't you be annoyed with people that argue against the charge. You are annoyed with people arguing against your post! When I was a Driver Examiner with the MTO everyone would argue when I reminded them of the HTA infraction or infractions which they committed during their driving/riding test; did you expect me to not be annoyed with these individuals? Maybe if they wanted to pass their driving test these individuals should have avoided the illegal action/s or at the very least not argue when the information is presented to them or even worse call me "a liar". As I said earlier, most police officers are good people but there are bad ones just like you find in any group. You having a negative view of a whole group will predispose you to act in a particular fashion and this can limit the outcome in any interaction.
