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Canadian Tire no longer ethanol free?
- Thread starter Michael0124
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Confirmed still no ethanol in Canadian tire premium.
The official answer from the VP of CT Petro
We are in the process of changing supply elements (tanks etc) to have equipment for all grades of fuel accommodate ethanol. While 91 grade currently is ethanol free, labeling may be "in process" as we prepare for the change in supply requirements in the future.
We are in the process of changing supply elements (tanks etc) to have equipment for all grades of fuel accommodate ethanol. While 91 grade currently is ethanol free, labeling may be "in process" as we prepare for the change in supply requirements in the future.
I wonder if those executives have any idea how many people buy their product specifically because it does not contain ethanol. I wonder if there's a way we can convince them that they are going to lose a significant number of customers if they make that move, and reconsider.
I have a motorcycle, boat, and several small engines that I'm loath to contaminate with corn squeezin's.
I have a motorcycle, boat, and several small engines that I'm loath to contaminate with corn squeezin's.
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I’ve run ethanol in pretty much all my small engine stuff over the years, including my JetSki‘s, with zero issues. The key is not to let it sit - if I knew our skis were going to sit for more than a few weeks unused I’d run the fuel really low so there wasn’t much in there to attract moisture. Or fill them with premium for that period of time.
Motorcycle gets ethanol and doesn’t care. I’ve run ethanol free and it made zero difference in fuel economy either.
Same with small engines as the jet skis.
The only time I care is the last fill up of the year.
As for anybody at Canadian tire caring, given as how 99% or more of consumers probably have zero clue about the whole ethanol thing, I can’t figure that the 1% of us who do are of much concern to them unfortunately.
Sadly, you are probably right. When Ultramar started adding ethanol to their premium I called their CS line. The person who answered seemed pretty clueless. She said she would have a technical person call me back. They never did. They don't care about us weirdos. It ain't easy being green.
My boat, chainsaws and pressure washer can sit for long periods between uses.
My boat, chainsaws and pressure washer can sit for long periods between uses.
Then Shell fuel is our last bastion.
Or buying the $25/L (or whatever it is) special non ethanol stuff from the small engine places if you don’t have a Shell nearby.
Or buying the $25/L (or whatever it is) special non ethanol stuff from the small engine places if you don’t have a Shell nearby.
CT is just changing due to supplier product changes.
Snowmobile with ethanol can fall on its face. I've had to pull one apart on a trip before and remove white crap that looked like snow from the bowls. Parking overnight at minus a lot was enough to cause a no-start.
Just checked, $8/L for the special small engine stuff at princess auto.
Had to have picked up water from a gas station then as a single tank of ethanol fuel wouldn’t phase separate that fast with that quantity of water.
I remember back when my dad and I were big into sledding we had a few run ins with ice in the fuel system as a result of gassing up at some podunk gas station with water in the tanks. I remember very clearly he was always very picky about where we gassed up whenever possible. And this was long, long before the era of ethanol.
Had to have picked up water from a gas station then as a single tank of ethanol fuel wouldn’t phase separate that fast with that quantity of water.
I remember back when my dad and I were big into sledding we had a few run ins with ice in the fuel system as a result of gassing up at some podunk gas station with water in the tanks. I remember very clearly he was always very picky about where we gassed up whenever possible. And this was long, long before the era of ethanol.
Indeed, but it sounds kinda imminent based on the news you received. The fact at least one location switched their signage already might suggest it’s happening sooner than later.
This was northern quebec. Your choice was fill up at the open station or travel another hundred km to look for another one. Normally we wouldnt have had enough gas to get to the next station.
Is the suggestion they installed some special tank for regular and mid grade gas that have ethanol, but installled a non ethanol compatible tank for the premium?
I’m not really sure I understand what changes would need to be made.
When Esso went to ethanol from no ethanol on their premium all that changed was a sticker on the pump and a blurb on their website.
I am not aware what changes are required or the scope of work required for storage or handling of fuels.
How about:
Traditionally a gas station had two kinds of gas and two tanks. One regular, one premium.
Then we got mid-grade, which was half and half premium/regular, mixed at the pump.
Then we got ethanol mixed fuels, and mixed 10% ethanol regular with 0% ethanol premium to get 5% ethanol mid grade. So far all is hunky AND dory.
Then we get 0% mid grade. With 10% regular there is no way to mix to get 0% mid grade, so they need another tank, to store either 0% regular to mix or to hold 0% mid grade
TK4
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Supposedly there is about a 3% drop in fuel economy with 10% ethanol.
That's not enough to justify the difference in price, but if you're in the middle of nowhere that 3% might mean making it to the next station (or not).
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