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sburns

sburns

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Hey all

Anyone have a source for HVAC parts?

My furnace draft inducer motor (brings in fresh air) bearing died and now makes a bunch of racket, so it needs to be replaced.
BTW it is a Fasco A197 (7092 0238) for a Trane furnace.

I've searched online and mostly everything is from USA and a somewhat marketed up Amazon.ca listing.

Thanks!
 
I bought an igniter in Orangeville for my furnace a few yrs ago when no other stores would sell to me because I didn’t have a gas license.

I forget the name but it’s in the west side of the town.
 
Good luck. Most of those suppliers will not talk to you without a license. It's very annoying.
 
Roadghost said:
Trane is American Standard. Marks Supply in Mississauga is a parts retailer.
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Thanks I checked their website didn't find what I need. Checking with HVAC service company let's see what they say.
Might have to order from the states.
 
GreyGhost said:
Good luck. Most of those suppliers will not talk to you without a license. It's very annoying.
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Fully understandable if OP was replacing a gas part. I R&R'd my vacuum motor, a couple of screws and wires. If you get it wrong the furnace doesn't come on. That was when you could talk to an actual company rep instead of a parrot at a call centre.
 
nobbie48 said:
Fully understandable if OP was replacing a gas part. I R&R'd my vacuum motor, a couple of screws and wires. If you get it wrong the furnace doesn't come on. That was when you could talk to an actual company rep instead of a parrot at a call centre.
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I tried multiple suppliers to get a blower motor for a high-efficiency furnace. Assuming the heat exchanger wasn't cracked, there is no possible way for that part to interact with combustion products or flammable gas. All suppliers refused to sell parts to anyone without a license. It was pure protectionist behaviour. I had to call a tech to buy the part and then buy the part off the tech and install it. Stupid all around. Techs are more likely to buy from shops that protect the monopoly.

Sburns has the added complication of playing with a part that is in the combustion path and failure to properly install could be dangerous (boom very unlikely but sleepytime is possible for a crap job).
 
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GreyGhost said:
I tried multiple suppliers to get a blower motor for a high-efficiency furnace. Assuming the heat exchanger wasn't cracked, there is no possible way for that part to interact with combustion products or flammable gas. All suppliers refused to sell parts to anyone without a license. It was pure protectionist behaviour. I had to call a tech to buy the part and then buy the part off the tech and install it. Stupid all around. Techs are more likely to buy from shops that protect the monopoly.
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My blower failed prematurely and I was able to talk to the manufacturer's rep, a cordial discussion on errors in the original design etc.

He put in a word for me at the local supplier and had them give me the trade price. List price was 20% of the price of a furnace.
 
nobbie48 said:
My blower failed prematurely and I was able to talk to the manufacturer's rep, a cordial discussion on errors in the original design etc.

He put in a word for me at the local supplier and had them give me the trade price. List price was 20% of the price of a furnace.
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I can't remember the brand of furnace I had then, it was high-efficiency less than 15 years old. Through the tech (who was apparently selling to me at cost in exchange for trying to acquire my future business but I have no way to confirm this), OEM blower motor was >$1000, cheapest he could find was aftermarket for $600. It was just a bleeping 1hp PSC. Anyway, that got me running again for six months or a year and then the fan started to come apart. I epoxied the fan back together to keep the wife happy until I could get the furnace replaced to one more suitable (50K BTU smaller as a start). I kept the motor as it should have lots of life in it in case a future use ever pops up. FWIW, heat exchanger was still in good shape, if it wasn't grossly oversized, a new fan would have been a cost-effective repair.
 
Dunno if these guys have anything. I was looking for parts for a gas insert today and these seem to have some Lennox parts and blowers etc Brands
 
GreyGhost said:
It was pure protectionist behaviour.
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So they sell you some part that you install on your furnace and your house subsequently blows up and takes out the neighbourhood... they're going to be named on the lawsuit and get to spend a couple hundred thousand on lawyers to prove they were not liable.

For furnace motors: (They're usually nothing special. Bill does pumps and pump motors too)
Bill's Electric Motors
829 Kipling 416 239 2227
Take him the motor, chances are he has one on the shelf... or something equivalent
 
GreyGhost said:
I tried multiple suppliers to get a blower motor for a high-efficiency furnace. Assuming the heat exchanger wasn't cracked, there is no possible way for that part to interact with combustion products or flammable gas. All suppliers refused to sell parts to anyone without a license. It was pure protectionist behaviour. I had to call a tech to buy the part and then buy the part off the tech and install it. Stupid all around. Techs are more likely to buy from shops that protect the monopoly.

Sburns has the added complication of playing with a part that is in the combustion path and failure to properly install could be dangerous (boom very unlikely but sleepytime is possible for a crap job).
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Hmm It's not really playing with fire. The Draft Inducer draws in the fresh air for cumbustion, so yes there is a little bit of that. But it's 1 piece assembly which only goes in 1 way. 3 screws and 2 more for the sensor housing, and plug it in. Oh and 2 tensor type bands.

Just so we all know what I am talking about.
furnace 2.jpg

Handy dandy Youtub of the removal and replacement.
 
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sburns said:
Hmm It's not really playing with fire. The Draft Inducer draws in the fresh air for cumbustion, so yes there is a little bit of that. But it's 1 piece assembly which only goes in 1 way. 3 screws and 2 more for the sensor housing, and plug it in. Oh and 2 tensor type bands.
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I'm not saying it's hard (nor that your install will be worse than a techs) but if the draft is not functioning properly, the temp of the heat exchanger could go out of limits, there may not be enough combustion air, exhaust gasses may not be properly propelled away from structure, etc. To be honest, I had the draft inducer replaced on my new furnace as the original had bad bearings out of the box and the tech slapped it in and did not check pressures nor check for leaks. I wasn't impressed.
 
bitzz said:
So they sell you some part that you install on your furnace and your house subsequently blows up and takes out the neighbourhood... they're going to be named on the lawsuit and get to spend a couple hundred thousand on lawyers to prove they were not liable.

For furnace motors: (They're usually nothing special. Bill does pumps and pump motors too)
Bill's Electric Motors
829 Kipling 416 239 2227
Take him the motor, chances are he has one on the shelf... or something equivalent
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I agree that there are some parts they should probably not sell a random person (eg a gas valve). If I manage to blow up my house with a blower motor that is in a different compartment from any gas or combustion air, I am a special kind of stupid. There is no legal requirement to enforce a ticket to service most of a furnace (your own anyway, I have no idea about helping a friend, probably no bueno).
 
GreyGhost said:
I'm not saying it's hard (nor that your install will be worse than a techs) but if the draft is not functioning properly, the temp of the heat exchanger could go out of limits, there may not be enough combustion air, exhaust gasses may not be properly propelled away from structure, etc. To be honest, I had the draft inducer replaced on my new furnace as the original had bad bearings out of the box and the tech slapped it in and did not check pressures nor check for leaks. I wasn't impressed.
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Ah I see where you are coming from.
I believe like cars, most furnaces are pretty much maintenance free and controlled by logic boards, trigger an error, replace part, move on. And most of the parts are intergrated so you replace the whole assembly.

There is no error code on mine currently, just makes a bunch of noise.
There was though, I took out the inducer. Cleaned and oiled it. Also I used the vacuum to suck out the fresh air pipe... and tada, I found a kids toy shoved in there, quite shocked when I pulled that out.
Put it all back together and didn't fix the noise....dam, but error code is gone.
 
If you haven't cross reference your part # that should give you more options and FWIW those little blowers will live for some time with loud bearings.
 
Dirty Frank said:
If you haven't cross reference your part # that should give you more options and FWIW those little blowers will live for some time with loud bearings.
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I've tried searching all the numbers I have on the part.
How would someone cross reference if I don't have the information on what other parts are compatible?

Sure the part to could work with the noise, but I can't, I don't want to listen to that while I am sleeping.
Also it could be a potiental fire hazard if they grind down, but that could be a very worse case, which I rather avoid anyway.
 
sburns said:
Hey all

Anyone have a source for HVAC parts?

My furnace draft inducer motor (brings in fresh air) bearing died and now makes a bunch of racket, so it needs to be replaced.
BTW it is a Fasco A197 (7092 0238) for a Trane furnace.

I've searched online and mostly everything is from USA and a somewhat marketed up Amazon.ca listing.

Thanks!
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My kid stocks them. I can give you a price tomorrow when he gets to his shop.
 
Can you just replace the bearing in the motor. Sucks this time of year screwing around taking the motor apart to find out with the heat off.

My guess it is a common bearing or maybe even just a bushing.
 
backmarkerducati said:
Can you just replace the bearing in the motor. Sucks this time of year screwing around taking the motor apart to find out with the heat off.

My guess it is a common bearing or maybe even just a bushing.
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I tried searching around for that but haven't seen anything on this. Even to replaced the electric motor, not the fan and housing comes up empty. There is a place in the west end which does this kind of service (re-cover-it I think) but they don't have any. I'd rather not muck around any more and just do the replacement.
 
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