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Can we mobilize teachers?

jc100 said:
...for no really good reason. I know a few brits that had to wait forever to jump through all the hoops to become certified to practice here. Medical training in the uk is arguably better than that in Canada.
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You think so? Not what I hear from friends who have practiced in both systems.Go ask a few who have practiced in both - particularly the backbones of healthcare, Nurses.
jc100 said:
Someone should be looking at a way to give all kids tablets after this. Preload them with educational software.
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Even better: Give every parent a Chromebook for each of their kids. You can usually find them for under $200.
 
Mad Mike said:
You think so? Not what I hear from friends who have practiced in both systems.Go ask a few who have practiced in both - particularly the backbones of healthcare, Nurses.

Even better: Give every parent a Chromebook for each of their kids. You can usually find them for under $200.
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My four year old says he is not reading today because he wants to teach my two year old how to download and listen to narrated books on Libby. I don't know whether to be proud or sad.
 
Mad Mike said:
You think so? Not what I hear from friends who have practiced in both systems.Go ask a few who have practiced in both - particularly the backbones of healthcare, Nurses.

Even better: Give every parent a Chromebook for each of their kids. You can usually find them for under $200.
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I know so. Cancer care practices/criteria for med school entry/ medical publications and advancements. Ooh...I wonder where The Lancet originates? Don’t need to ask them, I’ve worked with both. Canada is good...there are better.
 
GreyGhost said:
Great time for big companies (either tablet makers or just high dollar companies) to step up and provide. Hopefully they get a case manufacturer to join in too so they survive kids.
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An amazon fire can be had for $50 on sale (7" 8GB). Give every household one and charge it against the $2000 a month cheque they are giving out.
 
Still comes back to...not every household has proper Internet access, some it is just on their parent phone(s), no wired service, some can't afford it, for some it is not even available where they live. The "solution" for mandatory online high-school classes was for these kids to go to the library...

Parents will also have to step up.

I know, union propaganda... but as I noted this is all being worked on..
 
backmarkerducati said:
Still comes back to...not every household has proper Internet access, some it is just on their parent phone(s), no wired service, some can't afford it, for some it is not even available where they live. The "solution" for mandatory online high-school classes was for these kids to go to the library...

Parents will also have to step up.

I know, union propaganda... but as I noted this is all being worked on..
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There will always be the percentage that is harder to deal with. At this point, they need to quickly get something to the 90% instead of spending the next two years making sure 100% are properly accommodated before doing anything.

To that end, for the relatively small percentage that do not have technology nor internet at home, give them tablets/computers with a sim card. There are very few places with high population and no access to internet at all. Avoid videos as required part of lessons if possible so it alleviates the need for much speed, you just need a connection of some sort.
 
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jc100 said:
I know so. Cancer care practices/criteria for med school entry/ medical publications and advancements. Ooh...I wonder where The Lancet originates? Don’t need to ask them, I’ve worked with both. Canada is good...there are better.
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I can't say whether the training is better or worse -- perhaps the starting point is lower. What I can tell you is I'd never race from Canada to the UK if I was looking for better outcomes. There isn't a single category where UK doctors outperform Canadian's. Here are the simplest of WHO facts:

Health OutcomesCanadaUKAdvantage Canada
Survive Colo-rectal Cancer
63.55%​
54.50%​
17%​
Survive Breast Cancer
87.70%​
82.00%​
7%​
Heart Attack Death rate
5.70%​
7.80%​
27%​
Hemo Stroke Death Rate
22.20%​
29.60%​
25%​
Isc Stroke Death Rate
9.70%​
10.40%​
7%​
Life Expectancy 82
82.3​
81.2​
1.4%​

And how are those well trained UK doctors doing on the Crono front? Death rate is 5% in the UK right now vs <1% in Canada.
 
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Mad Mike said:
I can't say whether the training is better or worse -- perhaps the starting point is lower. What I can tell you is I'd never race from Canada to the UK if I was looking for better outcomes. There isn't a single category where UK doctors outperform Canadian's. Here are the simplest of WHO facts:

Health OutcomesCanadaUKAdvantage Canada
Survive Colo-rectal Cancer
63.55%​
54.50%​
17%​
Survive Breast Cancer
87.70%​
82.00%​
7%​
Heart Attack Death rate
5.70%​
7.80%​
27%​
Hemo Stroke Death Rate
22.20%​
29.60%​
25%​
Isc Stroke Death Rate
9.70%​
10.40%​
7%​
Life Expectancy 82
82.3​
81.2​
1.4%​

And how are those well trained UK doctors doing on the Crono front? Death rate is 5% in the UK right now vs <1% in Canada.
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Lol. Ok. By the way, France was even better than the UK in terms of healthcare but you believe whatever you want. I’ve used all three systems and worked with staff in two.

Just to add, the difference isn’t big enough for me to skip countries for anything but there is a difference.

Edit. Biggest difference I see is in the attitude and competency of younger residents. It’s been rare that I’ve come across a really good one here.
 
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K20EF8 said:
Well to be fair something like 30m americans dont have health insurance, Id be curious to see what the survival rates are from those that have it.
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Yes, doing a deep dive there are many theories. Higher (late) stage cancers do better in the US but far less get to that point in Canada, so Canada has better overall cancer survival rates. One theory, Canadians go to the doctor sooner as there is no co-pay if insured or giant bill if not so things get caught sooner when outcomes are better...
 
backmarkerducati said:
So are the haters still hating? Or is that union propaganda?

Asking for a friend....
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On what? The collective effort of three weeks of work by an entire province of teachers being a slide deck that has kids counting mini-eggs and watching video of a teacher reading a book in 2018 where you cant really see what they are reading? Greatly exceeded my expectations of a highly trained and skilled workforce. /s
 
mimico_polak said:
A few of my friends complained that their kids' teachers outright refuse to teach anything online. So I guess that's no good.
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You sound surprised. Most of us are on "vacation" now. You don't think they're going to want to work while we're not, do you?
 
FullMotoJacket said:
You sound surprised. Most of us are on "vacation" now. You don't think they're going to want to work while we're not, do you?
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Since they are still collecting full salary and benefits and most of the people on "vacation" are making a hell of a lot less than they used to, I damn well expect them to work full-time. Otherwise, go on pogie like the rest of canada and enjoy your "vacation".
 
One of my playmates is a high school teacher in the 'gta' . He is also the school 'IT , tech guy' in his school and already was doing on line learning even though it was in a classroom environment with a teacher facilitator at the front of the class. His transition to "ready" was a day.
However the teachers he is now coaching to get up to speed are that same ones that protested loudly when they went to E file report cards. There are teachers in the system that are not computer literate. Many dont want it because they dont understand it and cant do it.

Not saying its wrong, you can be a career jet engine guy, doesnt mean you could fly the plane. There is a whole generation of teachers in the system that are not tech savvy. BTW my buddy is 37 with a degree in computer science, I think he's the exception.
 
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