Buying and Registering an "unfit" motorcycle for a chopper build.

[timtune]

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Go to the MOT. Wait in line for a long, long time. When you get to the desk, ask the nice clerk if they would please register your bike as FIT-UNPLATED. They'll want the vehicle-permit side of the ownership, with the back filled in and signed, and a copy of the safety. Pay the fees and leave.

I think you will also need a bill of sale. This is where most of get a discount on the tax.

 

[bitzz]

It depends on the office. There is no requirement for a bill of sale, one of the forms you sign is a sales tax declaration, which IS required. The MOT requires the vehicle permit portion of the ownership signed to transfer ownership
I used to go to the franchise office at the HiPoint mall, that moved to Dixie/Dundas. Most of the clerks recognized me.
If I was registering anything more than 15-20 years old, they would insist on an appraisal. Not just me, everyone I know would be asked for an appraisal. No problem, I got a guy that will write anything I want for $50.
Now I go to the Lindsay MOT office. First old bike I registered, I brought an appraisal. The nice lady had no interest in even looking at it. When I asked why not, as it was REQUIRED at the Mississauga office. Nice lady says they are not REQUIRED, and tells me the clerks are instructed that IF they think the customer is trying to pull a fast one (that's us) they're to ask for an appraisal, and even went and dug up the memo and gave me a copy.
... so the Mississauga office was just covering their ***** by requiring an appraisal, JUST IN CASE.
I'm in the Lindsay office often enough there is couple of clerks that recognize me and I have never been asked for a bill of sale, so the price is $500... it's ALWAYS $500. The last time I was there, the clerk took my paperwork, and pushed the tax declaration at me to sign, already filled out for $500. I hadn't said a word.

 

[timtune]

I've never needed an appraisal, but usually I'm asked for a BOS. And yes it's always $500!

 

[nobbie48]

Once you have a vehicle in your name registered as fit, you don't need another safety unless it changes owners. There are rumblings that douggie may change that and require recurring safeties, but nothing remotely official so who knows if that will every happen.

To get to fit-plated, you need proof of insurance. Insurance over the winter costs almost nothing (IIRC Dec to Mar is ~10% of your yearly premium). Like the rest, I would be more worried about insurance than plates. I don't want to lose my everything just so I can ride a bike I think looks cool. Material changes without notifying them allows them to avoid paying out a claim (and they flag your name so any future insurance car or bike is punitively expensive for lying).

Don't move to Nova Scotia. If I understand it correctly everything that hits the road needs a yearly inspection that includes rust perforation.

 

[BigEvilDoer]

Something else you may want to think about, what would your insurance think if you made a claim on a chopped vehicle if you didn’t disclose it? I’ll let the project gurus weigh in, but food for thought.

Chances are they would void any insurance policy and claim etc. If Crunkboy6 hurt someone else, guess what… he’d have to pay it 100% as his insurance would deny any claim, as the bike technically has a damaged frame and that was never disclosed.

 

[BigEvilDoer]

Hi everyone. I had a question about an upcoming project and need some insight.

Im going to buy an "unfit" harley davidson sportster 1200 that im planning on turning into a chopper. The owner registered it without insurance or safety so thats why its deemed unfit. He rode on country backroads with no insurance for years.

Simply put, don’t do it.
You cut the frame and you have to go through a full government inspection to ensure it’s viable. Unless you’re a custom bike builder as a registered business with appropriate liability insurance any insurance company will simply say no.

Not sure if it’s possible to get a head stock adjustment bracket that increases the rake or not - put on a springer front end maybe…

But again, you’re opening a serious can of legal worms.
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[TK4]

Not sure if it’s possible to get a head stock adjustment bracket that increases the rake or not - put on a springer front end maybe…
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Flat track bikes have a steering head that will accept adapters to allow angle changes but especially designed for that purpose when constructed. Messing with rake, trail and fork length is something best left to the experts.

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