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buying a used bike from a random garage in Quebec? Advise please

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charlieman1987

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Hi everyone,

So I found a good deal on Kijiji, but it's in Quebec... we always avoid buying used cars from there...
here is the link Triumph Daytona 675ABS État Exceptionnel seulement 2200km | Motos sport | Sherbrooke | Kijiji
As per the seller's description, this bike is low mileage, one owner only and in great condition. I can ask the seller to have a video call with me to inspect the bike. It's hard for me to just go there and check the bike's condition.

Here are my a few concerns:
1. What should I inspect in the video call?
2. If I have the VIN, can I check the accident history?
3. How am I supposed to transport it back to my home? The seller suggest they get a temporary plate for it, and meet me at Montreal, I take the train to Montreal and pass him the money then ride it back (insurance shouldn't be a problem). Not sure if this is a good idea.
4. Should I pay the seller any tax? Seller mentioned I need to pay him the gst, do I get it refunded after paying the hst in Ontario?

Thanks in Advance!
 
I think you're nuts. That is a ton of effort, costs and potential problems for something that doesn't appear to be much cheaper than local bikes.

Triumph Daytona 675 | Sport Bikes | City of Toronto | Kijiji

2015 TRIUMPH DAYTONA 675!!$57.57 BI-WEEKLY, $0 DOWN!EXTRA CLEAN! | Sport Bikes | Markham / York Region | Kijiji

To answer your questions
1: I doubt you will see much. Do QC ownerships show branding? That would be an easy first step if they do.
2: Many, many bike accidents never get reported so I place little value in a clean history.
3: Hell no. This bike has 2000 km's on it in four years. You want to meet someone you've never met in a city far from home and ride 1000 km? Trailer/van is your friend.
4: I know there have been posts about this before. I have no idea.
 
Why go through all the hassle to save a couple of $$'s.

Unless it's a unique one of a kind bike i'd keep searching locally.
 
If you must have it:

1) Get the VIN and insure it in Ontario. Do a search on it then, and even ask the police to check to see if it is stolen.

2) Take the bus to Montreal and meet the seller at a convenient location of The Regie (Regie de L'assurance Automobile du Quebec). If the bike is a POS you can hop the bus back home. Show the Regie your insurance and license and get a transfer permit (good for 30 days in Quebec at last check). Tell them you are moving the bike to Ontario. They will provide you with the paperwork.

3) Ride it home, get it inspected within 30 days and have it licensed.

It's not that difficult. I have done it with cars. Remember that Quebec is an organized crime hotbed, and Sherbrooke is a notorious biker town. Do your due diligence.
 
I am pretty sure that if a bike was a salvage in Quebec there is no way to know once they get it licensed for the road again. In Ontario it will always be branded. If it is at a garage, I would bet money the bike was down and fixed there.
 
If it’s a good deal, someone in Quebec will buy it. Too much of a risk and a lot of time spent to potentially come home with nothing. You can see the cosmetic appearance, lights and signals, possibly hear it running...but other than that, the frame could have been straightened/repaired and bodywork repainted and you wouldn’t know it. You won’t see transmission issues, chain and sprocket wear, tire wear from a video call.

Buy something more local that you can at least take a look at yourself in-person or with someone with experience if that would help.

There are enough bikes for sale this time of year that something will jump out at you.


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I would not touch it with a barge pole. Too risky. As others have said, buy locally. Check this site out. Better chance here with reputable riders.
 
Riding the bike home seems to have a few sketchy details based on not getting caught.

Are you bilingual? Did you ever notice that when something goes wrong a person who formerly just had an accent suddenly can't understand a word you are saying and answers in a language you don't understand.

What is a long day of your life worth plus the transit costs?

Would the seller ride the bike to Toronto and you give him train fare home if the transfer goes through without a hitch?
 
ad indicates it's a dealer
and also that trades and financing are available
so yeah, that's a dealer
but the pics are obviously from inside a residential garage
a nice, tidy, well equipped garage

my best guess is, it was bought at auction
either after an insurance right-off, or a repo
either way I'd not be going all that way for it

translation:

Beautiful Triumph Daytona 675 ABS, 2016, only 2100km, several addition;
alarm system, Two Brothers Racing Black Series exhaust system,
brake light and LED turn signal, rear center stand, motorcycle in perfect condition,
$ 8,900, financing available up to 10 years, exchange accepted, Christian 819-578-5253
 
If its extrodinary or very rare, then yes it looks clean and could be worth all the effort. Its a Triumph daytona.
 
Thanks for everyone's input. As most of you said, it's just too much risk and hassle to deal with these guys. So I will still stick to local ads instead.
 
GreyGhost said:
I think you're nuts. That is a ton of effort, costs and potential problems for something that doesn't appear to be much cheaper than local bikes.

Triumph Daytona 675 | Sport Bikes | City of Toronto | Kijiji

2015 TRIUMPH DAYTONA 675!!$57.57 BI-WEEKLY, $0 DOWN!EXTRA CLEAN! | Sport Bikes | Markham / York Region | Kijiji

To answer your questions
1: I doubt you will see much. Do QC ownerships show branding? That would be an easy first step if they do.
2: Many, many bike accidents never get reported so I place little value in a clean history.
3: Hell no. This bike has 2000 km's on it in four years. You want to meet someone you've never met in a city far from home and ride 1000 km? Trailer/van is your friend.
4: I know there have been posts about this before. I have no idea.
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The one in Quebec has $2000 upgrade, and it's newer and lower mileage comparing to the one you posted.
 
charlieman1987 said:
The one in Quebec has $2000 upgrade, and it's newer and lower mileage comparing to the one you posted.
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I'm not saying they are identical, just in the same ballpark. Upgrades on a used bike normally factor very little into the price, they just make it easier to sell.

Personally, I dont care whether a bike comes with 2,000 or 14,000 km. I want it well maintained and often prefer the higher mileage bike as the damn thing has actually been ridden more than twice per year.

Picking up the bike in qc will take you at least a day an cost many hundred dollars by the time you get there and back. That's money that is spent even if the deal falls apart.

None of this even begins to factor in the nightmare of possibly getting a bike that cannot be registered in Ontario. Then what? Drive it back to qc and fire sale it?
 
This seems like a dumb idea. I have no specific reason, just seems/feels bad.
 
GreyGhost said:
I'm not saying they are identical, just in the same ballpark. Upgrades on a used bike normally factor very little into the price, they just make it easier to sell.

Personally, I dont care whether a bike comes with 2,000 or 14,000 km. I want it well maintained and often prefer the higher mileage bike as the damn thing has actually been ridden more than twice per year.

Picking up the bike in qc will take you at least a day an cost many hundred dollars by the time you get there and back. That's money that is spent even if the deal falls apart.

None of this even begins to factor in the nightmare of possibly getting a bike that cannot be registered in Ontario. Then what? Drive it back to qc and fire sale it?
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14,000 km seems pretty close to brand new to me. I would not even flinch at a bike with that low km.

I agree completely, maintenance and proper care are worth a lot. I had a loaner bike when mine was in for service a month back. Think it was a 2012 BMW RT and it had 178,000+ km on it. Bike road fantastic and the engine felt great. I only noticed the km's when filling up on the way back and was shocked.

The savings vs headaches that could possibly arise are just not worth it in my opinion.
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