And now what really happened.... This customer called here and wanted to "check out the parts" In other words I pay to ship these to him and if he's not happy with the quality I pay to ship it back and give him a full refund. He was told we can't do that. However if the part arrives damaged we can exchange it. So he orders the part thinking he will just "make up a damage claim" when there is none, so he can check it out and send it back at no charge. Once parts are installed they can't be returned just like every other online store. He installs the part "checks it out" then tries to return it. Bestem parts are 60-70% cheaper then Ilmberger. You can't expect the same quality as the most expensive part as the cheapest part. That's like complaining your Corvette isn't up to the quality of a Bugatti and you want your money back! Quality is price based in most cases. After leaving us 1 star reviews and slagging us all over the internet this customer has come back to buy more bestem carbon without removing this slag from the internet. Go figure....
Why would you get a refund if the packaging was damaged?@ bayside performance
So if the item or packaging is damaged do I get a full refund and cost for the shipping back?
Exactly. Packages get damaged during the shipment all the time. I'd be good so long as the product inside is in good condition. If not, who's to blame at that stage?Why would you get a refund if the packaging was damaged?
Officially, probably the shipment should be rejected so the courier is on the hook but that rarely happens. I'm with the rest, packaging is there to protect the part. If the packaging gets hurt but the part is ok, it did its job and I have no issues.Exactly. Packages get damaged during the shipment all the time. I'd be good so long as the product inside is in good condition. If not, who's to blame at that stage?
Probably because Bayside didn't know about the thread. They stumbled upon it and wanted to leave their side of the tale to balance the story for future people that see the thread.Am I the only one wondering why there is a 16 month gap in this thread?
If the USA lockdowns get any worse then they did this year get ready to wait longer!Got myself a Healtech Thunderbox from Bayside recently. Outside of it being almost 3 weeks, the process was pleasant.
Btw, if you've got stuff like heated grips, USB connectors, etc. running off the battery and need to remember to always turn them off (or were planning on finding a switched power source), check the Thunderbox out. Basically, it connects to the battery and your accessories connect to it and it monitors battery voltage to determine when to supply power and then when to turn it off, all on its own.
I'll install it in the spring but it's something I never knew existed until recently.
you sell tires?If the USA lockdowns get any worse then they did this year get ready to wait longer!
My advice for any body that wants to ride next year buy your parts now!
It was slightly busy this year! lol. I've been working 16 hours day 7 days a week for 8 months straight. Answering thousands of phones calls responding to thousands of emails, servicing over 400+ bikes. At one point in June I was over 4000 emails behind! For some reason everybody decided to ride their bikes this year and with border closed ordered all their parts in Canada. I've been doing this for 20 years and I've never seen anything like that. I got 2 street rides to Squamish and back this year. About 3 hours of riding! Getting set to do in all again in 3 months! We do not stop for lockdowns.
Avon has been a particular disaster this year - supply chain in general for a lot of products has been badly disrupted.you sell tires?
I want a set of Avon Trailriders but can't find stock anywhere
supply chain from UK disrupted? or they come through the US?
Yeah, so few people know about this. Yes, if the package is squashed, punctured, soaked through or otherwise not delivered in a reasonable state, REJECT the shipment. Do not let the courier negotiate, haggle, explain anything to you. The moment you accept the package, you are literally acknowledging that the courier company has completed their service to your full satisfaction. You nor the seller (really just the seller) will ever be able to convince the courier company, even with video evidence cause you signed to the opposite.Officially, probably the shipment should be rejected so the courier is on the hook but that rarely happens.
This is sort of true. You can have the courier record any external implying/expecting possible internal damage before accepting a package and pursue it with the shipper after the fact. I do it all the time at work. Some push back, but "YOU'RE MARKING THIS DOWN AS DAMAGED" then cross your arms and stand there silent, and it suddenly gets done. Most don't care and are fine with doing it.Yeah, so few people know about this. Yes, if the package is squashed, punctured, soaked through or otherwise not delivered in a reasonable state, REJECT the shipment. Do not let the courier negotiate, haggle, explain anything to you. The moment you accept the package, you are literally acknowledging that the courier company has completed their service to your full satisfaction. You nor the seller (really just the seller) will ever be able to convince the courier company, even with video evidence cause you signed to the opposite.
This is sort of true. You can have the courier record any external implying/expecting possible internal damage before accepting a package and pursue it with the shipper after the fact. I do it all the time at work. Some push back, but "YOU'RE MARKING THIS DOWN AS DAMAGED" then cross your arms and stand there silent, and it suddenly gets done. Most don't care and are fine with doing it.