Burlington- Loud bike ban

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honduhmatic said:
I'm with most of the posters in this thread. I like getting sleep and enjoying my yard without being bothered by excessive noise.

If you have a loud-ish bike, please at least keep the revs down so you don't bother everyone. There's noticeable, and then there's obnoxious. If you act respectfully with the noise - even with a loud bike - I bet you're less likely to get a ticket. The 'loud pipes save lives' crowd usually aren't the guys decked out in day-glo yellow with running lights! (Their patches are usually non-reflective...)

Ticket for obnoxious motorcyclist => large hefty fine => revenue generation for town => less taxation for me :)
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lol... so this leaves the dual sport crowd out, only ones i see with glow in the dark patches
 
As long as the by-law follows SAE J2825 I'm happy with it.
 
rutakin said:
with all the buildings around it echoes a lot more... and if you can't hear the person sitting next to you talk over an exhaust across the street, yea if it wasn't for a handgun ban i'd shoot the mofo.
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not to get offtopic too far...i was just using that as a example.
but the handgun ban didnt pass and wont. either way they are only legal to be used at ranges in canada unless you are a ticketwriting cop, so the ban is pointless.

i live close to a main road and next to a highway. lots of harleys around here but in all honesty its only the sport bikes i notice while outside my house. my friends SS has aftermarket exhaust but its not that loud and i can hear the high pitch echo/whine of it about 5 min before he gets here.
harleys are loud in a diferent way, the sound just doesnt carry the same, you hear the grunt then its gone. the redline is much lower.

im going to be getting a SS over the winter so im not trying to start a harley vs crotch rocket debate, but thats just what i notice.
 
Red695 said:
They always sound like the the engine is about to die.
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Yeah, Harleys can idle at 500 rpm. I find that loud cruiser riders like to rev when there's lots of people around, they demand an audience.
 
RetroGrouch said:
Yeah, Harleys can idle at 500 rpm. I find that loud cruiser riders like to rev when there's lots of people around, they demand an audience.
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I live a couple km from clapison corners and I can hear motorcycles roaring down hwy 6 all the time. I don't know much about exhausts but they are definitely harley's. I imagine the people living closer to hwy 6 and even hwy 5 are pretty piss*d about it and I can't say I blame them. They are much louder than even truck engine breaks.


but running on hwy6, don't really think they would be at an idle.
 
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mmmnaked said:
BULL!

Theres reasonable and expected noise, and then theres DOUCHETARDS on Harleys with open pipes. Their bikes should be confiscated and crushed.
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Sorry, I'm a little butt hurt, as my neighbours have started to complain about the noise from me and my other neighbours sitting outside and having a drink at 8pm. The talking wakes up their child.

kiwi said:
Sorry, but the suburbs have its fair share of **** heads on bikes too rolling out of their driveways to the timmys
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All relative. You would 'expect' less noise in the suburbs, and therefore have a greater reason to complain.

ViperZ said:
So you think people move downtown and EXPECT to have tards with straight pipes or with baffles removed from their mufflers or with fart cans riding/driving by their building?? I couple of days ago I saw a cruiser going by on the street and the car alarms were going off. WTF??
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Not necessarily, but you should EXPECT a distinct increase in noise levels.

rutakin said:
not to mention the fact that we are sitting on the patio while some ****** is trying to start his bike for 10 minutes because he's been sitting there with the lights on. you are an old faquer on a harley you ain't getting any hoes dumbass.
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Sucks to be that guy, no doubt, but he really just needed a push. maybe he does 'get hoes', how would you know?

RetroGrouch said:
Even downtown residents have a right to a reasonable level of noise. A goof revving a doochemobile of any kind is self-indulgent, antisocial behaviour.
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Agreed. Self-indulgent, antisocial behaviour is not acceptable. However, you really need to be aware of the surroundings you're moving in to. As my current neighborhood situation dictates, if the behaviour considered antisocial by the complainer is actually normal day-to-day behaviour for the 'hood, you end up with fun conflict.
 
There is no "normal" circumstance in which its okay to be running an open exhaust on any car or bike.
 
honduhmatic said:
I'm with most of the posters in this thread. I like getting sleep and enjoying my yard without being bothered by excessive noise.

If you have a loud-ish bike, please at least keep the revs down so you don't bother everyone. There's noticeable, and then there's obnoxious. If you act respectfully with the noise - even with a loud bike - I bet you're less likely to get a ticket. The 'loud pipes save lives' crowd usually aren't the guys decked out in day-glo yellow with running lights! (Their patches are usually non-reflective...)

Ticket for obnoxious motorcyclist => large hefty fine => revenue generation for town => less taxation for me :)
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good point.. When was the last time you saw a "loud pipes saves lives lives" rider riding in FULL gear .. that being said, I also have never ever seen the Hi-Viz gear being worn on by cruiser rider. The cruiser guys with Full Face helmets tend to ride the metric cruisers too.. not HDs.

Just my own observations..
 
Ya ya loud badass straight pipes are annoying... big deal really. What about the dumb *** sport bikers that run in a group or by themselves going way above the speed limit buzzin in and out of traffic on hwy's....now that is putting people's lives at risk. The loud bikes don't do that.
 
Kool said:
Ya ya loud badass straight pipes are annoying... big deal really. What about the dumb *** sport bikers that run in a group or by themselves going way above the speed limit buzzin in and out of traffic on hwy's....now that is putting people's lives at risk. The loud bikes don't do that.
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Agreed - the loud bikes are annoying and aggrevating, and the sportbikes buzzing on the freeway are annoying/aggrevating PLUS dangerous.

This is why the noise bylaw fine is lower and carries fewer demerit points than HTA 172. Note that the 'two brothers' sportbike crowd could get this fine in addition to their HTA 172 fine.
 
kiwi said:
good point.. When was the last time you saw a "loud pipes saves lives lives" rider riding in FULL gear .. that being said, I also have never ever seen the Hi-Viz gear being worn on by cruiser rider. The cruiser guys with Full Face helmets tend to ride the metric cruisers too.. not HDs.

Just my own observations..
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Exactly. Most of the H-D riders I see want pipes for safety... while wearing black, in beanie helmets, often in just vests or in without full proper gear.

Having your cake and eating it too, in some bizarre way? Or wanting all the attention you can get? Either way, it's an interesting contradiction.
 
Kool said:
Ya ya loud badass straight pipes are annoying... big deal really. What about the dumb *** sport bikers that run in a group or by themselves going way above the speed limit buzzin in and out of traffic on hwy's....now that is putting people's lives at risk. The loud bikes don't do that.
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Newsflash: that's already illegal.
 
Red695 said:
They always sound like the the engine is about to die.
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That must be because people mess with them. I went on a Harley Davidson Demo Day on Saturday, and there's nothing wrong with those bikes if unmolested. It started well, idled smooth, wasn't loud at all.
 
mikbusa said:
That must be because people mess with them. I went on a Harley Davidson Demo Day on Saturday, and there's nothing wrong with those bikes if unmolested. It started well, idled smooth, wasn't loud at all.
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Out for a walk with the wife in suburbia and a guy cruised by on a HD. His sound was drowned out by someone's lawnmower across the street. Stock pipes and low power setting works a charm.
 
mikbusa said:
That must be because people mess with them. I went on a Harley Davidson Demo Day on Saturday, and there's nothing wrong with those bikes if unmolested. It started well, idled smooth, wasn't loud at all.
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Having rode many Harley's stock and not stock they never idle smooth. This is coming from a likely future Harley owner.
 
kamikaze said:
there were about a half dozen or so harleys that left Crossroads in Rosseau just after 1pm on Saturday, and they were so incredibly loud that everyone in the restaurant was pretty annoyed. I couldn't talk to the person next to me and we had to have been a couple hundred feet from the road.
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I knew someone that did that and came away wondering why everyone was looking at him and his wife like they were scumbags.
 
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