Brave rider last night...

The water was about a meter, was nearly at my exhaust at one point.
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I'd question a meter....even a dual sport with a 35" seat height could not handle water a meter deep ( 39.x " )
as the air intakes are generally under the seat.
The exhaust height does not matter as long as the engine is running.
It's the air intake that is the key - the guy in the video had his snorkeled up to his handlebars and above.
 
MacDoc said:
I'd question a meter....even a dual sport with a 35" seat height could not handle water a meter deep ( 39.x " )
as the air intakes are generally under the seat.
The exhaust height does not matter as long as the engine is running.
It's the air intake that is the key - the guy in the video had his snorkeled up to his handlebars and above.
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Yep, the exhaust reference was to show how high the water was. My bike stalled half was through because the airbox was submerged. It eventually started back up. At the deepest point it was a meter. Fun day except my tail like doesn't work now, its probably a loose connection.
 
I got caught innit on Monday night too... it was just another (heavy) rainy day on the 407, but the 401 was flooded in 6-8" of water at certain parts that I hit... it was CRAZY for me, as I'd never been through that before, but ultimately not a problem.

Did it all with no rain gear and my velocity kevlar jeans, too LOL
 
Well that's one way to ruin a bike....oh wait it's a scooter, thing was probably floating anyways. Looks like fun if you have a bike like a klr or similar, sportbikes no.
 
There's not even a foot of water on the ground. Bike can go through more than that. The people saying he's brave must be the same people that think riding when there's still salt on the ground will instantly destroy your bike.

I'd be more concerned about what that water would do to my car that is worth 5x my bike.
 
Julz said:
Well that's one way to ruin a bike....oh wait it's a scooter, thing was probably floating anyways. Looks like fun if you have a bike like a klr or similar, sportbikes no.
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Why does it matter what kind of bike it is as long as the intake is above the water?
 
Mose regular street vehicles are designed to work in the rain but let's keep in mind that water falls from the top and runs down.
No parts are really submerged in water and penetrates into openings or remove lubricants.

Have a look at your wheels and the bearings some of them use. How long before just those components start to fail.
You brake calipers could take in water, now you have water in your braking system, not good.

What happens when you put your laptop or phone in water?
What do you think happens to your bikes electronics?

And we wonder why we get stupid warning labels on obvious things.
 
-D- said:
Mose regular street vehicles are designed to work in the rain but let's keep in mind that water falls from the top and runs down.
No parts are really submerged in water and penetrates into openings or remove lubricants.

Have a look at your wheels and the bearings some of them use. How long before just those components start to fail.
You brake calipers could take in water, now you have water in your braking system, not good.

What happens when you put your laptop or phone in water?
What do you think happens to your bikes electronics?

And we wonder why we get stupid warning labels on obvious things.
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My laptop would die if I left it in the rain, too. Even with electronics in my experiencetthere's about a 50/50 chance they'll be fine after they dry. If your lubricants are washing off that easily you're using some pretty bad lube.
 
unL33T said:
My laptop would die if I left it in the rain, too. Even with electronics in my experiencetthere's about a 50/50 chance they'll be fine after they dry. If your lubricants are washing off that easily you're using some pretty bad lube.
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My GPS is not waterproof but it has survived two rain storms.
Now, would I dunk my GPS into a bowl of water, not likely.

When you dunk your bike in water like that, you are going to cause the wires to corrode at the ends.
Some bikes have their rectifier located at the bottom of the bike.
To each their own as it's your money.
 
Mose regular street vehicles are designed to work in the rain but let's keep in mind that water falls from the top and runs down.
No parts are really submerged in water and penetrates into openings or remove lubricants.

Have a look at your wheels and the bearings some of them use. How long before just those components start to fail.
You brake calipers could take in water, now you have water in your braking system, not good.

What happens when you put your laptop or phone in water?
What do you think happens to your bikes electronics?

And we wonder why we get stupid warning labels on obvious things.
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You are out to lunch on rain and water proofing on motorcycles.
These things are meant to get wet especially anything that is not under the seat. Water simply does not impact them nor does it impact the braking system.
Water in the brake lines is a different issue and is caused by brake fluid absorbing some over time....nothing to do with riding in heavy rain.


You can do this all day if you don't get water in the air intake.

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and he's not getting any wetter than riding the slab in a downpour. Electronics for outdoor use, be it boat or motorcycle or car or any other being made for water exposure simply are not affected.

Salt water is a different issue but even there electronics are able to be used underwater with the correct design and sealing.

Even chain lube is not "washed off" by water - tho never hurts to top it off but dust is way worse for your chain.
No motorcycle manufacturer would dare make a machine these days that was not very good in heavy downpours. It would be far too dangerous if you thought your machine would not work in a heavy rain.

Old days...sure ....of of the Brit electrics were useless. These days....keep the air filter clear and the only risk to the exhaust is if the bike is not running.
 
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Excuse me? Braking system could take on water?
QUOTE=-D-;2038381]Mose regular street vehicles are designed to work in the rain but let's keep in mind that water falls from the top and runs down.
No parts are really submerged in water and penetrates into openings or remove lubricants.

Have a look at your wheels and the bearings some of them use. How long before just those components start to fail.
You brake calipers could take in water, now you have water in your braking system, not good.

What happens when you put your laptop or phone in water?
What do you think happens to your bikes electronics?

And we wonder why we get stupid warning labels on obvious things.[/QUOTE]
 
First four words???

You're wrong period.
Conflating electronics like laptops with all weather vehicles is ludicrous and completely incorrect.
Heavy rains at speed gets in everywhere and vehicles including motorcycles are designed for this.
You really think the inside of your car under the hood stays dry - the electronics are soaked continuously even by condensation.

Poor design not allowing standing water to run away can cause electrical issues due corrosion ...not emersion.

Geez no mcycle designer in his or her right mind would not design an all weather vehicle to not withstand getting wet.

The most vulnerable spot is under the seat and if it's up that high then the engine is not breathing either.....same as in a car....which is why so many vehicles in Australia have snorkels.

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and why that kid could ride handlebar deep.
 
unL33T said:
Why does it matter what kind of bike it is as long as the intake is above the water?
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Do you go off roading in a sportbike with sticky tires?
 
Julz said:
Do you go off roading in a sportbike with sticky tires?
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Water on the road and offroading are different. But yes, I have before. There's some interesting pics of Toysareforboys doing it on an R6 kicking around somewhere, too.

If you check out international forums, especially in countries like Thailand, for example, people will submerge all types of bikes. It's practically necessary to get around during their rainy seasons. They have many of the same models as us (including the occasional SS) and many are exactly like this scooter. It doesn't kill the vehicle. Would it be better to stay dry? Probably. But so is keeping salt off your car in the winter but that doesn't seem to stop people from driving in the snow.
 
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unL33T said:
Water on the road and offroading are different. But yes, I have before. There's some interesting pics of Toysareforboys doing it on an R6 kicking around somewhere, too.

If you check out international forums, especially in countries like Thailand, for example, people will submerge all types of bikes. It's practically necessary to get around during their rainy seasons. They have many of the same models as us (including the occasional SS) and many are exactly like this scooter. It doesn't kill the vehicle. Would it be better to stay dry? Probably. But so is keeping salt off your car in the winter but that doesn't seem to stop people from driving in the snow.
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I don't need to check international forums, I've lived it. Those bikes that they get around by are 125cc motorcycles the most, cheap and meant to be abused. You'd be stupid to ride a $13k bike with that kind of flood, but hey your money do whatever you want. My original post just says a klr or similar bike would be ideal for something like that and not a sportsbike.
 
But what makes a KLR better? The fact that they're cheaper? Are their bearings better sealed? Something else? Knobbie tires and more suspension travel aren't going to make a difference...

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