I can give you experience from my perspective of riding for nearly 60 years and up to 20,000 km on this RT on another thread or PM but to summarize, I couldn't be happier. It is the complete bike. Now back to my original question.......
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BMW Service/Warranty Options For Former Endras Customers
- Thread starter thwak
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Wow has this thread turned from a simple dealer suggestion
The GS has been liquid cooled with an integrated transmission and equipped with a wet clutch since 2013.
The only criticism I have seen of the 1250 Boxer (Ryan Fort9) was that it was unnecessary for an off-road bike.
It is an incredible motor with excellent torque and drivability and great motor for all the R models.
The GS is one of the best all round and travel bikes but not the best single track bike due to its weight.
Apart from the the KTM 790/890 and Yamaha T7 and previous versions of the AT most of these bikes are not ideal single track bikes unless your are a very skilled rider.
The New Africa Twin 1100 has departed away from the simple off road bike and is gaining in heft as it evolves to a GS like bike
The recent GS models and especially the liquid cooled bikes have not had many driveshaft failures. Most were caused by poor maintenance, water crossings and extreme angles from over loading.
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bigpoppa
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Change the hypoid gear oil, unless it's permanently lubed. Or ride it till it leaks and then buy a new drive unit.
Additionally, keeping the driveshaft rubber boots sealed to minimize water egress on water crossings.
In many cases riders kept riding despite hearing and feeling a failing bearing.
Thankfully, most of these failures are not common on the current and previous generation of GS models.
The ones that failed most were the ones that had “ permanent” fill and required no service.
In many cases riders kept riding despite hearing and feeling a failing bearing.
Thankfully, most of these failures are not common on the current and previous generation of GS models.
The ones that failed most were the ones that had “ permanent” fill and required no service.
I also pull them apart and lube the splines with super high-moly content grease. I use Honda Moly 60 which was a big problem getting my hands on 20 years ago and is now apparently unobtanium but that's ok as the tube I have will last the rest of my life.
Wouldn't the grease wash off from the hypoid oil after it warms to operating temps?
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I don't know how manufacturers get away with "lifetime" fluids that need to be regularly changed to prevent destruction. Many of them run that scam.Reading this post just makes me mad all over again...
I remember reading the literature from BMW about the no lube drive.Nope nope nope.Reading this post just makes me mad all over again...
And now they have a zero maint chain.Ok!
I would have been happier with a plastic tube than the Moly 60 packaging to fit a small grease gun. I don't know if anyone has ever put Moly 60 in a gun. IIRC I paid $40 for the tube 20 years ago. I bought it for a K bike. There was some wear on the splines from previous owners and not much lube in there when I pulled it apart.Does BM
Does BMW grease get better as it ages for 30 years?
hah.
When i had my Optima i was at the garage getting an alignment and balancing, guy asks if i wanted him to check anything. I thought about it and said F it, let's change out the Tranny fluid (around 120k). He comes back about 10 minutes later saying it appears to be a sealed unit and good for the lifetime of the vehicle. I vaguely recall him rolling his eyes at me as he said it.
I bought my 1250 GS at downtown BMW. Last winter the service dept were doing a milk run in eastern On and stopped in to pick it up and then retuned it after a service. I'd call downtown and try to arrange something considering riding season has ground down. Maybe even call the sales guys as a few from Endras ended up at downtown and maybe you'll know them.
Just to close the loop on this, I went to Maranello for service after booking well in advance and I'm a very satisfied customer. They were able to do the front brake caliper replacement recall as well as the normal 20k km service. Friendly and professional.
Relax
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Not just their bikes, but their cars too. People needed to understand what BMW meant was the fluid was good for the lifetime of the warranty so they could artifically lower the maintenance costs then promptly sell you another vehicle when it did eventually fail.
Relax
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Woah, I didn't realize they went to the extent of sealing them!
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