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Bummer man. You will just have to live with the fact that the bike you want has not been built yet.
Bike that has TC and ABS?
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Yeah bro. I have no idea how ppl ride these bikes without ABS and TC.
They are either brave or crazy.
Shaman
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*shakes head*
If you ask me, those things do not belong on a bike.
I believe people will ride this BMW 1000 and get used to all the bells and whistles.
The minute they step foot onto a regular bike, it's wipe out time.
I believe people will ride this BMW 1000 and get used to all the bells and whistles.
The minute they step foot onto a regular bike, it's wipe out time.
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You are proving a marketing point, they are safer on their BMW, don't ride anything else
Dont forget "power steering"
BTW op, i'd go with one of these. No traction control but you've got ABS
Traction control is possible with this bike using OEM parts if you know what options to ask for.
kiwi
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Its like how people drive these days with Automatic transmission, auto headlights, lane departure warnings etc..
It's all been dumbed down. A motorcyclist should know how to brake effectively and efficiently engage the throttle smoothly. All basic skills lacking in the modern era.
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koorosh
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Reminds me of throttle mapping switch in Suzuki Super sports. Unnecessary!
Shaman
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If you've ever ridden a bike with new-generation TCS you will stop talking crap about it. It's fantastic. Use it as a tool to go fast, and it works. The first time you go flat-stick in first gear with the bike leaned over 40 degrees and roast the tire all the way out to the curbing without any drama... you may "get it."
Alamode
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I understand where you're coming from, but doesn't it make sense to keep iterating on technology to make it more safe, more reliable and more robust? If in 50 years someone creates a motorcycle that was guaranteed to never crash without sacrificing any of the performance we enjoy now, would you ride it? At what point is it okay for a basic skill to become obsolete?
wonderings
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So are you saying we are finished with progress? Things will always change and move forward, some things we like, some we dont. Who knows, in 50 years everything could be hover and we no longer have ABS and traction control and its a whole new set of gizmos to keep us safe. Ultimately its up to you, if you really dont like the tech, you do not have to buy it, but all these features that are in the higher end bikes will eventually trickle down and become standard across the board.
Good question. Technologically advanced cars are faster than ones that don't have it. But are they more fun?
Cars with stick shift, ABS and traction control are a lot more fun to drive.
My opinion is that no TC and ABS only serves one purpose and it's too contribute to the thrill of riding.
I ride a bike with with lots of technology, ABS, TC, electronically adjustable suspension, riding modes, mapping. When I bought the bike I didn't really know how much I would use it but soon found out that once you play with it you find that it contributes to the fun factor.
Shaman
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This is what my tire looked like after a day at Calabogie - taking it easy. Genuinely easy, and yet I turned a pile of low 2:20s despite never pushing it into a corner the way I would with the track bikes.
(dafaq?! I can't get a picture to show)
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q81/s720x720/1185248_10151560632862680_1809535586_n.jpg
Superbike traction control, as implemented today, isn't what people think it is. These systems let the tire spin a certain amount so that you can steer the bike on the power. It's awesome. Talk it down if you will but it makes you look foolish if the people you're talking to have tried it.
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q81/s720x720/1185248_10151560632862680_1809535586_n.jpg
Superbike traction control, as implemented today, isn't what people think it is. These systems let the tire spin a certain amount so that you can steer the bike on the power. It's awesome. Talk it down if you will but it makes you look foolish if the people you're talking to have tried it.
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kiwi
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Likewise, my old bike had All the bells and whistles. Really nice having it.. And traction control saved me twice. One time it didn't...
Gotta love a quick shifter though! ;-)
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Griffin
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LOL. And you've based this on what observations?
I suppose every driver with ABS in some vehicles and not in others crashes every time they try to stop the one without ABS too. How could someone ever drive a manual after driving an automatic? They would be used to all those bells and whistles and wouldn't have a clue, I guess, according to you.
Myself, I drive manual, automatic, 4x4, rear wheel drive, front wheel drive, tracked, motorcycles with and without ABS and TC and have no problems operating within the vehicle's capabilities. Only time I've crashed recently was on a bike with "all the bells and whistles".
OP - I didn't know any bikes had power steering. News to me.
