Bike cranks but will not catch and will not shift from first.

^ It is a design flaw for it to be even POSSIBLE to install the oil filter backwards in such a manner that it blocks all oil flow.

For something like this, which is very likely to be serviced by people who do not have the service manual in front of them and/or are mechanically incompetent and/or do not give a crap (quickie oil change places), the oil filter installation should be idiot-proofed. Most cartridge filters are idiot-proof ... either the filter is symmetrical so that it doesn't matter which way it gets installed, or the asymmetrical filter fits over something that either won't allow the filter to be installed the wrong way at all or prevents the cover from being installed if it is put in the wrong way.

I have a suspicion that the oil filter installation in this bike is, in fact, idiot proof (the filter is meant to fit over a stub pipe, and if you have it the wrong way, the end of the filter with no hole won't fit over that pipe and failing that, you won't be able to install the cover), and the engine simply blew up independently of the oil filter situation.
 
I agree that it should be idiot proof but from the picture and description the op posted he had the hole facing out and the solid end in blocking the stub. Stub is probably short enough that the spring can still collapse and lets you get the cover on. Next time I change the oil in my CRF i will see if it is possible to flip the filter and put the cover on.
 
Brian P said:
^ It is a design flaw for it to be even POSSIBLE to install the oil filter backwards in such a manner that it blocks all oil flow.

For something like this, which is very likely to be serviced by people who do not have the service manual in front of them and/or are mechanically incompetent and/or do not give a crap (quickie oil change places), the oil filter installation should be idiot-proofed. Most cartridge filters are idiot-proof ... either the filter is symmetrical so that it doesn't matter which way it gets installed, or the asymmetrical filter fits over something that either won't allow the filter to be installed the wrong way at all or prevents the cover from being installed if it is put in the wrong way.

I have a suspicion that the oil filter installation in this bike is, in fact, idiot proof (the filter is meant to fit over a stub pipe, and if you have it the wrong way, the end of the filter with no hole won't fit over that pipe and failing that, you won't be able to install the cover), and the engine simply blew up independently of the oil filter situation.
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You are correct there was a stub, sadly coming from a CBR125 which has no oil filter I was unaware of that, it is obvious to me now, yet the manual does not make it clear or atleast clear enough for someone as dumb as me :(. I am unsure what I will do in the future, since it was my fault I could see myself getting another one and having peace of mind knowing that I have replacement parts for everything, and a 2 year warranty ( as I will buy new instead of used) but that's a year away and the CB500R and Ninja 300r are both sexy bikes :>
 
I suspect that the stub pipe on the engine was long enough that the cover could not be installed if one attempted to insert the oil filter with the blocked side facing inward.

If you like the Honda CB500 or Ninja 300 ... buy either one. I don't know how much of a market there is for Hyosung parts ... I tend to suspect that it is not much (other than engines - if you had a good one). Sell what you can, scrap the rest, buy the Honda or Kawi, and move on.
 
How many kms were on this engine? Do yourself a favour and part it out, don't waste your money buying a brand new one...
 
LoneRonin said:
How many kms were on this engine? Do yourself a favour and part it out, don't waste your money buying a brand new one...
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6300km, we will see where the year takes me. Being 22 insurance plays into it a lot. It was 2500 a year for the Hyo, God knows what a 500 or 300 might cost.
 
Codeh002 said:
6300km, we will see where the year takes me. Being 22 insurance plays into it a lot. It was 2500 a year for the Hyo, God knows what a 500 or 300 might cost.
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Contact the manufacturer and file a complaint, depsite being out of warranty no way an engine should blow at 6300 km...
Let them know they have problems with whatever they are doing. I doubt the whole filter thing caused this to happen.
 
LoneRonin said:
Contact the manufacturer and file a complaint, depsite being out of warranty no way an engine should blow at 6300 km...
Let them know they have problems with whatever they are doing. I doubt the whole filter thing caused this to happen.
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regardless of the filter being able to go in backwards, from "broken in" to "just broken" at 6,300km is pretty bad
 
Backwards filter thing happens all the time. Some engines will keep going, some won't. Honda's (especially ATV's) are notorious for this, you can time the engine life span on a watch if you put the filter in backwards. Yamaha V-Stars with the cartridge filters (650's and 1100's) will have no issues, except the oil isn't being filtered. I have had them come in with 5000 kms on a backwards filter with no o-rings. Motor was perfectly fine.

If you are reasonable with your dealer (ie not getting angry, not swearing etc.) they may have some more room to help you than you think. When you start filing complaints with head-office their hands become tied. The head office might be able to help, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Having your local dealer on your side can only help.
 
Scuba Steve said:
This one is not a manufacturing defect it is user error in putting the filter in backwards. If I flipped the filter in my Honda it would blow up as well. That being said I wouldn't buy a Hyosung there is no where near enough of a price difference to justify it.
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