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Best tires for end of season track days?

Well, now you're asking tough questions.
The "best" tire is the one that works best for you and your bike and gets you a GREAT relationship with a tire vendor. Pirelli will not be a Dunlop and a Dunlop will not be a Michelin and a Michelin can"t be a Bridgestone. They all work in relation to your set up.
So assuming you have the best tire you like,, then in colder/cooler weather where the track may get down to 0 or under 10 C at night. It takes a real beautiful day ,no wind hot early sun to warm that track up.
Cayuga has no real sweeper corners and you work predominatly the right side. So the left side steals the heat.
So a DOT tire, street or track compound should work better as the carcass will flex more. Your riding style and level would dictate what suits you better.
The best one can do is talk to the tire vendor and get some cold pressure starting points and just take your time in the morning until you are confident it's working.
No problem with questions, the hard part of this sport is doing what you can and not what perfect world situations would dictate.
Just remember,, in cooler weather ,,even with warmers at SMP ,and TMP you loose heat under 15 C. There is just not enough grip and duration of corner to build heat.

John
 
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I think the lack of grip or difference of grip is related to the long straight and shortness/tight corners. The front straight and 1 to 2 do not really build any heat but with the speed and wind can rob a lot of heat built up on the prior corners. A slick can give you better grip but if it does not get warm it is certainly going to prevent traction. The more flexing done by a DOT tire will help retain and build heat.
But SMP and TMP are two tracks very hard to build heat at all under 15 C. If you use warmers you more then likely will come in after five laps and be about 55 C,ish. If you do not use warmers you might get into the 20 C range. People with out warmers have to really pay attention to traction and those with warmers need to understand the tire cools off after 8-10 laps. Wind will excell the cooling process as the track temperature.
 
Maybe I'm bias but I have found the Dunlop Qualifier Series of tyre can
handle the cooler temperatures. With the aid of tyre warmers of course.
I used to only stay out on the track for 5 laps at a time and then
come in for adjustments and warm tyre pressure checks. Then, when satisfied
with the set up go out for the full sessions. A lot of us old pros used to wait until
the afternoon too!

http://www.trackdayhub.com
 
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The surfaces are much different as well it seems. TMP is not nearly as course as SMP IMO.

I think the lack of grip or difference of grip is related to the long straight and shortness/tight corners. The front straight and 1 to 2 do not really build any heat but with the speed and wind can rob a lot of heat built up on the prior corners. A slick can give you better grip but if it does not get warm it is certainly going to prevent traction. The more flexing done by a DOT tire will help retain and build heat.
But SMP and TMP are two tracks very hard to build heat at all under 15 C. If you use warmers you more then likely will come in after five laps and be about 55 C,ish. If you do not use warmers you might get into the 20 C range. People with out warmers have to really pay attention to traction and those with warmers need to understand the tire cools off after 8-10 laps. Wind will excell the cooling process as the track temperature.
 

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