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Best option to mount my phone to my helmet/bike?

As others have said, it's not advisable mounting a phone onto your helmet, especially something as expensive as an iPhone 12. You don't want debris hitting the phone, and losing your phone means losing quite a bit of data, is a huge inconvenience and also you've lost your ability to contact emergency services in case something happens.

Also, to start and stop recording on the phone, you need to tap a soft button somewhere on the screen, which isn't as easy if it's affixed to a helmet mount. Especially if the software button is on the front of the screen which is right up against your helmet or chest mount. Most action cameras have an easy-to-access hard button on the top or side that makes it simple to operate with gloved hands. These action cameras also sound an audio warning to let you know when recording has started and stopped.

I'd highly advise you to go the action camera route. Yes, it's additional money, but you're saving your phone for use as a phone and using something purpose-built to record easily and have it also be water resistant/shockproof.

Plus, a huge-*** iPhone affixed to the front of your helmet would look really silly.
 
Do not use your phone as a camera on your bike. Here's a link to Apple's own support site.


This is while they still are honoring the warranty because they cannot prove this is what broke it, Apple has a trend of excluding things once they can prove the activity.
Well obviously I didn’t tell them I used it on a bike…they also didn’t ask 🤣
 
Here's my setup... camera sits under the headlight, tucked in a bit. Another rear facing camera is mounted under the tail rack. Both cameras are wired into the control module which sits under the seat and is wired into a switched power source. Automatically starts recording when I turn on the bike and automatically stops when I turn off the bike. Records in 5 minute clips then overwrites the oldest clip when the memory card is full. But if I wanted to make a movie out of all the clips I can just pop the memory card into my computer and user a program to join all the clips. This camera cost me $160, but it's only 1080p. A 4k one would be more expensive although I think 1080p is good enough.

Memory cards have really come down in price, I bought a 128 gb micro sd card for $15 recently.

Don't attach your phone to your helmet (seriously, how did you ever even come up with such a dumb idea?). A go pro or some other kind of action camera is the next best thing and I've used them in the past but I find it a hassle to always have to remember to turn it on, and also they run off batteries which only last a few hours..
I just got something similar for the new bike: VSYSTO. It was $150 with tax.

The 256 gb sandisk high endurace micro sd was $50 all in. I found that the other type of cards tend to get chewed up and spit out by dash cams.
 
Itchy Boots has some sort of handlebar mounted trigger for hers. I like that she can look around and focus on things plus minimal vibration from the helmet mount. I think whe can run commentary too. Just looking straight ahead at the road seems boring. I don't like videos anyways but I find her VLogs very entertaining.
 
I think I found the solution

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Itchy Boots has some sort of handlebar mounted trigger for hers. I like that she can look around and focus on things plus minimal vibration from the helmet mount. I think whe can run commentary too. Just looking straight ahead at the road seems boring. I don't like videos anyways but I find her VLogs very entertaining.
My new bike supposedly will connect to a GoPro Hero 7, and run some features from the handlebar switches & screen.
No other camera has been certified with the system though. Not even a GoPro 6, 8, 9 or 10.
 
My new bike supposedly will connect to a GoPro Hero 7, and run some features from the handlebar switches & screen.
No other camera has been certified with the system though. Not even a GoPro 6, 8, 9 or 10.

That’s weird. There’s a remote for the 8,9 and 10. Maybe it’s just a bluetooth remote?
 
I dont think that wind resistance + iphone mount on helmet would be best friends.
I could already feel it with my "go pro size" cam (the drag)

So something with such a big surface id say no to unless you have a gigantic windscreen that keeps you in a bubble while you ride :)

In the end how much is your iphone worth and if it gets damaged would you be willing to pay that replacement
 
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Do not use your phone as a camera on your bike. Here's a link to Apple's own support site.


This is while they still are honoring the warranty because they cannot prove this is what broke it, Apple has a trend of excluding things once they can prove the activity.

"Exposing your iPhone to high amplitude vibrations within certain frequency ranges, specifically those generated by high-power motorcycle engines"

Well, I'm good, my bike doesn't have. a high powered engine. ;)


In all seriousness, from what I've gathered, this is mainly an issue on high revving sportbikes, not really cruisers....well, except for "shake the bike apart" Harleys perhaps...but despite being a V-Twin, my engine is pretty smooth and not buzzy in the least.

I have an aluminum mount that I use on my bike (directly mounted to handebars) that my phone slides directly into. 10,000km last summer with no adverse effects, so I think I'm good.

I could see the chest strap working. But honestly, If I see someone wearing an entire iPhone attached to the helmet, that just looks silly.

I'm not really worried about what I look like to anyone else honestly. I care about coming back with some cool footage to remember the trip by, so from that perspective IGZF. ;)

Yeah, on the dragon where there's photographers I'll run a few times back and forth with the camera in different places so it doesn't ruin the shots (I usually buy one from Killboy when it's all said and done) and then leave it on there for a few other runs to get my own footage.
As others have said, it's not advisable mounting a phone onto your helmet, especially something as expensive as an iPhone 12. You don't want debris hitting the phone, and losing your phone means losing quite a bit of data, is a huge inconvenience and also you've lost your ability to contact emergency services in case something happens.

Also, to start and stop recording on the phone, you need to tap a soft button somewhere on the screen, which isn't as easy if it's affixed to a helmet mount. Especially if the software button is on the front of the screen which is right up against your helmet or chest mount. Most action cameras have an easy-to-access hard button on the top or side that makes it simple to operate with gloved hands. These action cameras also sound an audio warning to let you know when recording has started and stopped.

The "losing your phone" thing is a risk, yes, but having done a lot of digging around on the topic in the last few days, it seems people who do this use a safety tether in some circumstances....and with a quality mount, it seems to be unnecessary even as nobody reports ever having lost their phone from their (again, quality, purpose built) mount. I do have a spare iPhone that I plan to bring "just in case", but I'm increasingly confident in the setup I'm looking to run with here.

As for starting and stopping - Apple Watch. The apple watch actually has an app that interfaces with the phone and not only provides remote start and stop, but shows an exact 1:1 view of what your iphone is seeing on the screen of the Apple watch, which is actually pretty great for setting up the angle etc even when you can't necessarily see the phone screen itself.


Works for video as well as photos as demonstrated in the video.

I dont think that wind resistance + iphone mount on helmet would be best friends.
I could already feel it with my "go pro size" cam (the drag)

So something with such a big surface id say no to unless you have a gigantic windscreen that keeps you in a bubble while you ride :)

In the end how much is your iphone worth and if it gets damaged would you be willing to pay that replacement

I do have a pretty good sized clear air bubble I'm riding in.

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But yes, wind resistance has come to mind. My thoughts on that:

- I have a pretty good clear air zone around my head for a helmet mount anyways, and I have a flip-up secondary windshield (visible in that above pic) that I can adjust to move the air around my head even more if needed.
- I don't plan on using much (if at all) in any high speed riding anyways.
- I don't plan on using it for hours at a time or anything like that, just for highlights....IE, tail of the dragon and some of the other well known stretches of road. Beyond that, it goes back into my holder on my handlebars.
- In some of the bike mount locations I have in mind using GoPro mounts, wind resistance doesn't matter anyways, and again, speed probably won't be a big factor.

Anyhow, here's the mount that I've opted to go with.


It's a tank (solid aluminum) , and it has all sorts of mounting options. And theres nearly zero percent chance of a phone clamped into it falling out.

I'm working on getting some SmallRig gear (That stuff is amazing, I use some of it for other stuff including my handlebar mount for my phone) to get maximum options for mounting angles and such using just GoPro mounts in various places.

I'll share some results as this project comes along.
 
It really blows me away how well it works on video everytime I use it on my iPhone as well, which is why I want to go this route.

It's going to take up a ton of space on my phone, but even if it takes all night at the hotels, I'll just offload it to my server at home (or the cloud) eery night and then reclaim the space.

I do wish that Apple would allow memory cards like Android, ugh.
 
So, throw my entire plan out the window. 😄

I came across a deal on Facebook Marketplace that I couldn't pass up.

Did a quick test ride a few nights ago with the camera mounted in 2 different locations - right side saddle bag, and right side of helmet. I plan to add more mounts but this was just some quick and dirty testing.

Threw together a quick video of the test footage. To test the mounting locations and the motion stabilization I drove the rode to and from Darlington Provincial Park as the road itself isn't super smooth, and the train tracks are notoriously terrible. And I didn't try to go smooth over the train tracks....

Make sure to Select 4K on YouTube and go Full screen.

0:30 - First time across the train tracks with the camera on bag. The bag is mounted on rubber and even though it's moving a lot (and the camera is mounted to it), the footage stays amazingly solid.

0:40 - Back over them the other way.

0:50 - Slow motion test. (Was filmed on 4K/30FPS)

1:00 - Pulled over and swapped camera to helmet.

1:25 - Back across the train tracks with helmet mount.

1:50 - Back over the tracks the other way with helmet mount. I actually bottomed out the rear suspension on this pass although you can't really tell it on the video.

2:00 - I hit the limits of the electronic stabilization when looking for traffic in the roundabout and moving my head too fast.

2:25 - Just me running out of gas as I'm about to get on the 401 LOL. (Look at the dash)

2:50 - Decided I'd better get gas. The sun came out and the picture quality gets even better without the overcast.

(Turn off the sound if you don't want music. I was feeling nostalgic over my fathers passing a decade ago...)





So, anyone care to take a guess at which camera I ended up with?
 
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So, throw my entire plan out the window.

I came across a deal on Facebook Marketplace that I couldn't pass up.

Did a quick test ride a few nights ago with the camera mounted in 2 different locations - right side saddle bag, and right side of helmet. I plan to add more mounts but this was just some quick and dirty testing.

Threw together a quick video of the test footage. To test the mounting locations and the motion stabilization I drove the rode to and from Darlington Provincial Park as the road itself isn't super smooth, and the train tracks are notoriously terrible. And I didn't try to go smooth over the train tracks....

Make sure to Select 4K on YouTube and go Full screen.

0:30 - First time across the train tracks with the camera on bag. The bag is mounted on rubber and even though it's moving a lot (and the camera is mounted to it), the footage stays amazingly solid.

0:40 - Back over them the other way.

0:50 - Slow motion test. (Was filmed on 4K/30FPS)

1:00 - Pulled over and swapped camera to helmet.

1:25 - Back across the train tracks with helmet mount.

1:50 - Back over the tracks the other way with helmet mount. I actually bottomed out the rear suspension on this pass although you can't really tell it on the video.

2:00 - I hit the limits of the electronic stabilization when looking for traffic in the roundabout and moving my head too fast.

2:25 - Just me running out of gas as I'm about to get on the 401 LOL. (Look at the dash)

2:50 - Decided I'd better get gas. The sun came out and the picture quality gets even better without the overcast.

(Turn off the sound if you don't want music. I was feeling nostalgic over my fathers passing a decade ago...)





So, anyone care to take a guess at which camera I ended up with?

DJI Osmo Action ???


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I’ll wait for a few more guesses before sharing the whole story. 😉
 
OK, since nobody is going to play the guessing game LOL.

It's not a GoPro.

I was looking at GoPros after the fact on FB Marketplace and such. But to get the image stabilization I wanted/needed I was looking at at least a 7 Black. Best price I could find on any was still around $250 which was still more than I really wanted to spend, and most included few to no accessories (much less a second battery) at that price.

Against my better judgement I went back looking at the knockoff market again and came across a ton of videos on YouTube comparing genuine GoPro's to all sorts of different models. Some good. Many ****. Then I came across the Akaso lineup. Some Googling showed a lot of praise for these, and the footage comparisons on YouTube for some of their models was actually very impressive when put side by side with $$$ GoPros.

One model really stood out despite not being Akaso's top of the line (or even particularly recent) model - the V50X.

They're on Amazon for about $125 right now which honestly was in the price range I was cool with. Reviews are consistently good there as well and it all checked out. I was about to order when I thought I'd check Facebook Marketplace again, and boom, there was a V50X not 20 minutes from me for $45. Brand new in the box never opened.

And that's what it was filmed with. And I'm pretty happy.

The thing came with a crap-ton of accessories as well, including a remote (already strapped onto the handlebars), 2 batteries, a dual charger, and a bunch of different mounts.

Picked up a 256gb MicroSD for it and it shows about 10 hours of recording space now which is waaaaaay more than I need, but the price difference between 128 and 256gb (found on sale at Visions Electronics) was only $5.

Anyhow, here's the Amazon listing. Check FB Marketplace as well if anyones interested, they're out there.

 

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