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mimico_polak said:
Wow....never thought of that. No wonder I’m no thief.
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The visegrip on the track is a decent idea. If you want something super annoying, drill a hole in the track just above a roller and put a padlock through it. Then, even if they are in your garage hey have to cut the lock or unbolt all the rollers below the lock to get the door open.
 
Im clueless about dogs, but provided one is properly trained and food provided for, can you leave a rottweiler around for a day or two while your gone, alone for a while or nah?
 
bigpoppa said:
Im clueless about dogs, but provided one is properly trained and food provided for, can you leave a rottweiler around for a day or two while your gone, alone for a while or nah?
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Where does it go to the bathroom? Cats do well on their own, dogs not so much. Most dogs will eat all of their food in the first few minutes (not all, but the vast majority) so food would need something to meter it out over time.

We try to plan trips <12 hours if we are leaving the dog at home. He can do 16 (and maybe more) but it cant be good for him.
 
GreyGhost said:
With a coat hanger, it's not hard to pull the release from outside the door. Our last house didnt have a second door into the garage and stupid me kept the generator there.
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I've seen a video of how that is done.The door has to be flexible enough to get it to bend in the middle and get a coathanger in.I think it will only work with an old door.I have a new insulated door on mine.I tried pushing it in the middle and can't budge it.Esp standing on a ladder.
 
Wingboy said:
I've seen a video of how that is done.The door has to be flexible enough to get it to bend in the middle and get a coathanger in.I think it will only work with an old door.I have a new insulated door on mine.I tried pushing it in the middle and can't budge it.Esp standing on a ladder.
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All of mine have had space there with a rubber seal. No need to bend the door.
 
bigpoppa said:
Im clueless about dogs, but provided one is properly trained and food provided for, can you leave a rottweiler around for a day or two while your gone, alone for a while or nah?
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A dog left alone that long is going to suffer from behavior issues. They need both mental stimulation and exercise to be calm happy dogs generally. The good news is if you had one you end up loving it so much you never want to leave it alone anyways.
 
It will depend a lot on the area. If it is a decent area and the bike cannot be seen from the street it is pretty safe in the backyard, specially if the gates are actually locked. You can always add a cable lock around the wheels and even lock that to something. Cover also helps for anyone just looking over the fence scoping it out. Maybe a motion light.

Unless it is very specifically targeted thieves want quick and easy. They can defeat pretty much everything but they also don't want to spend a bunch of time fiddling around increasing the risk of being caught. Make it a pain in the ass.

Now if you are in a bad area, that may be different as people are scoping things out all the time. Growing up (Falls) I had my bicycle stolen from my back yard, it was there maybe 30 minutes unlocked out of sight. Stuff got stolen all the time, BBQs, etc. had to be locked down. Where I live now I am always shocked that kids just leave their bicycles in their front yards. At my kids school, some kids even leave their bicycles unlocked or just have one of those supper skinny cables locks, crazy.

The other wild card these days are drones. Friend caught "kids" actually teenagers with a camera equipped drone scoping backyards for pot plants.... no need to fence hop.

Not bike related, but be careful if your garage is attached and there is a door into the house. Thieves break into the garage (methods as discussed in this thread), then the house (all when they know no one is home). Take their time picking through the house, load the best loot up in the garage, pull up a cube van load up in minutes and split.
 
Wingboy said:
I've seen a video of how that is done.The door has to be flexible enough to get it to bend in the middle and get a coathanger in.I think it will only work with an old door.I have a new insulated door on mine.I tried pushing it in the middle and can't budge it.Esp standing on a ladder.
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You can pretty much eliminate this risk by removing the handle from the rope and then there is nothing for the hook to grab onto. If you need to disingage the mechanism just wrap the rope around your hand and give it a good pull.

While you're at it check your exterior door, almost all of which open out. Likelihood is that your hinge pins are removable and all a thief has to do is pull these and your added deadbolt lock is irrelevant. There are lots of YT videos on how to resolve this issue (adding a pin to the hinge edge of the door ) and it takes about an hour to resolve this issue.
 
backmarkerducati said:
Not bike related, but be careful if your garage is attached and there is a door into the house. Thieves break into the garage (methods as discussed in this thread), then the house (all when they know no one is home). Take their time picking through the house, load the best loot up in the garage, pull up a cube van load up in minutes and split.
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Doors between garage and house are almost always left unlocked as well. I put code locks on the garage to house doors but given what is available in the garage, there is no way to properly secure the house. Even if I put vault doors up, you could easily go through the wall.
 
ReSTored said:
You can pretty much eliminate this risk by removing the handle from the rope and then there is nothing for the hook to grab onto. If you need to disingage the mechanism just wrap the rope around your hand and give it a good pull.

While you're at it check your exterior door, almost all of which open out. Likelihood is that your hinge pins are removable and all a thief has to do is pull these and your added deadbolt lock is irrelevant. There are lots of YT videos on how to resolve this issue (adding a pin to the hinge edge of the door ) and it takes about an hour to resolve this issue.
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Really, people are installing loose pin hinges on an outswing? smh.
 
Evoex said:
Yeah...don't leave dogs alone especially big ones. When they get bored stuff inside your house pays the price.
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Totally depends on the animal not the size, I had a little fox once that was the cutest most cuddly pet ever, but if you left him in a room for 5 minutes it looked like a tornado hit the room.


You want to know really bad security, any security access door that has a motion sensor to conveniently unlock it from the inside. (unless it has a really really good door gasket on the bottom)
 
Wingboy said:
I've seen a video of how that is done.The door has to be flexible enough to get it to bend in the middle and get a coathanger in.I think it will only work with an old door.I have a new insulated door on mine.I tried pushing it in the middle and can't budge it.Esp standing on a ladder.
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My releases don't have a rope on them going to be very hard to release from outside.
 
Trials said:
Totally depends on the animal not the size, I had a little fox once that was the cutest most cuddly pet ever, but if you left him in a room for 5 minutes it looked like a tornado hit the room.


You want to know really bad security, any security access door that has a motion sensor to conveniently unlock it from the inside. (unless it has a really really good door gasket on the bottom)
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Door gasket is no defence. That can be opened with a straw on an aerosol can. I've never seen a seal that would stop a tiny straw (I guess it is conceivable that an active threshold with a a labyrinth could but I have only seen them in a studio).
 
bigpoppa said:
how safe is it sitting in the backyard behind the house with the little side door locked? I suppose as an added insurance I could put it in a shed locked down as well as anchored to concrete


Never really seen anyones bike go missing on these forums besides all the apartment/condominium residents with underground parking lots
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Condo garages are indoor malls for bike thieves.


GreyGhost said:
Haha. I was doing inspections in Malvern and jumping fences to access locked back yards. I had to get in to every backyard, asking for permission would have taken days longer (prior to assumption so I was legally allowed access). After 3/4 of a day a see a cop doing a slow roll. I flag them down and tell them they are probably looking for me. They had a very confused look on their faces. In years of jumping fences to do inspections, that was the only time I had to deal with the cops. Wear a hard hat and a hi-vis vest and it is very rare that anyone questions what you are doing.
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Add a clip board and tape measure to the costume and you're good to go. Getting into condo garages is just about as easy and faster than finding the super.
 
decently constructed shed with a locked door is good
as well as a gate that is secure
motion detecting lighting, IP camera
and like mentioned, get along well with neighbors

don't have to worry about any of that if you get a VStrom
 
J_F said:
decently constructed shed with a locked door is good
as well as a gate that is secure
motion detecting lighting, IP camera
and like mentioned, get along well with neighbors

don't have to worry about any of that if you get a VStrom
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On my second VStrom. They can be worth a bit all farkled up. Am I driving an ugly bike not worth stealing ? Suddenly I’m feeling self conscious about my biking image.
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