Controlling guns. I have pages of evidence showing that it always leads to more deaths.
Train your children to protect themselves.
Edit: ask and you shall receive.
This is my collection so far of evidence knocking down many different fallacies and providing evidence that people should spend time on other more important death rates. I tried to give credit to anyone that gave me any form of footwork, and I liked how they worded their arguments most of the time so I just kept their argument in original form for the most part.
This is on mobile app of there are any errors please feel free to point it out so I can fix it.
Gun deaths and why we should care about other deaths first:
Lets look at some numbers. Because not all numbers were available for 2016, I had to use older data in some areas, which I note when needed.
2016: 33,594 gun deaths. 22,938 were suicides and 1,305 were cited as other (accidents, death in war, etc). 14,415 were classified as homicides.
Based on numbers from 2011, 80% of firearm homicides were gang related. That means for 2016, 11,532 homicides were gangs and 2,883 were not. Lastly, for 2016 781 homicides were ruled justified. Justified means the 'victim' that was shot was engaging in a criminal offense.
This means that for people not shooting themselves, not in a gang, and not committing a crime worthy of being shot, the total number of gun deaths was 2,102 for 2016. While that is still an unfortunate number, in a country of 325,700,000 that puts your chances at 0.00065%.
For comparison, over 51,000 Americans die each year from the flu. Over 10,000 die falling out of bed. The most comparable number is 2,167 people die from constipation. So if you think guns are a major problem in the US be careful, because being so full of **** puts you at the same level of risk.
credit goes to
u/Orange_Man_Bad with some backup math on my part below:
I assume most of you are not in a gang, and in this math any people killed as collateral damage counts as a non gang related death.
However for those of you in a gang I'll add the numbers.
2,102 non gang related deaths + 11,532 gang related deaths = 13,634 which still makes the chances of getting shot 0.004216032350142% out of 100%. Or 1 out of every 237 people.
You are 6.5X more likely to die of a gun related death once you join a gang.
The chances of catching HIV and it progressing into AIDS is 1 in 78 Americans or 0.012820512820512% out of 100.
So you are 3X more likely to catch AIDS than you are to get shot and die: even if you're in a gang. If you're not in a gang it is almost 20x higher.
A little graphic on how likely to die you are while doing different things.
https://storage.googleapis.com/titl...die-from-different-activities-behaviors-1.png
Gang members are 1 in 237
Non gang members are 1 in 1517
Accidental deaths are about 1 in 8,450
Dying from drugs or alcohol 1 in 34.
Dying from falling 1 in 83.
Dying from heart disease 1 in 4.
Chances of catching HIV and it progressing into AIDS is 1 in 78.
When it comes to Universal Background Checks why should we support anything that can be proven not to work?
Here's two sites to show reasons they don't work with backing evidence:
4 Reasons 'Universal Background Checks' for Gun Buyers Are a Bad Idea
Study By Anti-Gun Researchers Finds Universal Background Checks Do Nothing to Decrease Violence, Suicides - The Truth About Guns
So why in the hell do we want to pass legislation with all that downside that won't even solve the problem ?!
Credit to
u/Buelldozer
So you don't have to click:
18 mass shootings with 63 wounded and 47 dead.
u/JohnGalt57 also did a breakdown of the top 20 deadliest mass murders in the USA since 1900 and was surprised to see firearms were used in only 6 of them. Only 1 shooting was in the top 5 and only 2 shootings in the top ten.
9/11 Attacks, 2001
2,997 Dead, 6000+ Injured by crashing planes into buildings
EgyptAir Flight 990, 1999
217 Dead, crashing plane into Ocean (Coast of Massachusetts)
Oklahoma City Bombing, 1995
168 Dead, 680+ injured by bomb
Happy Land Fire, 1990
87 Dead, 6 injured by arson
Las Vegas Shooting, 2017
59 Dead, 422 wounded by firearm
Orlando Night Club Shooting, 2016
50 Dead, 58 Injured by firearm
Bath School Disaster, 1927
45 Dead, 58 injured by bomb
Pacific Air Lines Flight 773 Hijacking, 1964
44 Dead by crashing plane into ground
Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771, 1987
43 Dead by crashing plane into ground
Wall Street Bombing, 1920
38 Dead, 143 injured by bomb
Virginia Tech Shootings, 2007
33 Dead, 17 wounded by gunfire
Upstairs Lounge Attack, 1973
32 Dead, 15 Injured by Arson
Sutherland Springs church shooting, 2017
27 Dead, 20 wounded by firearm
Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, 2012
28 Dead, 2 wounded by firearm
Gulliver’s Nightclub Fire, 1974
24 Dead, 32 injured by Arson
Luby's massacre, 1991
24 Dead, 27 injured by firearm
Los Angeles Times Bombings, 1910
21 Dead, 100 wounded by bomb
r/Firearms - The 36 Mass Shootings in France since their 1995 Directive 91/477/CEE and Article 581 Decree 95-589 implementations
r/Firearms - The 21 Mass Shootings in UK After the 1997 Firearms Act Amendment
r/Firearms - Updated: 21 Australian Mass shootings I found
Credit to
u/JohnGalt57
You take away guns, murderers still kill people. Without guns.
Lawful citizens should be allowed to defend themselves.
