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Thats weird and a big ripoff that Ducati would ask $500 for a recall letter.
When I bought my Triumph I went to the Triumph website and put my vin # in, it came back saying "There are no current recalls on this vechicle".
I printed it out and went to the RIV office and asked if this was ok, yes no problem.
So a printout should be sufficent, or a short letter from the dealer on a dealers letterhead saying there are no recalls should be sufficent.
Phone RIV and make sure though.

Would you happen to have a link to where you obtained that on the Triumph website?
thanks
 
I saved about 3K importing a used bike including the transportation costs. Warrantee wasn't an issue. The only difference is a speedo/odometer that is MPH preferenced. If it was only a grand it wouldn't have been worth it.

For a grand you get a less hassle warrantee and no running around waiting at borders.

Also look at options or gear from a dealer as part of the purchase. They have higher mark ups on gear and maybe can discount a new helmet or boots to sweeten the deal.
 
I have'nt made the deal yet. I don't even know at this point if its a great deal. Its $9,500 OTD for the 2011 Monster 796. The price listed on a Ducati's dealers website in Canada is $11,995. So now with the ~ $200 RIV fee and transportation and all maybe i'll come out $1000 ahead. I know that's a descent amount of saving but with the leg work involved is it worth my time? hhuumm something to think about......

......opinions anyone?

Do the math

US Bike $9500 OTD + 13% Canadian taxes + RIV = $11K + Travel and misc costs say a mnimum of $11,500.

Canadian Bike 11,995 plus tax and register will be around $13,800 so savings are over 2K. (Your insurance??) What's your time worth?



The numbers are off the top of my head so bean counters can correct.
 
Not much of a saving when you can get one here for $ 1000 more, and these are just advertised prices! Not to mention the residual values of US bikes are always less.


2011 796 $10 500

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...er-with-Termignoni-Exhaust-W0QQAdIdZ451849438


2012 796 $10 800
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...ing-Ducati-796-ABS-Monster-W0QQAdIdZ451839735

2012 796 - $9999

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...012-Ducati-Monster-796-ABS-W0QQAdIdZ450602661


I have'nt made the deal yet. I don't even know at this point if its a great deal. Its $9,500 OTD for the 2011 Monster 796. The price listed on a Ducati's dealers website in Canada is $11,995. So now with the ~ $200 RIV fee and transportation and all maybe i'll come out $1000 ahead. I know that's a descent amount of saving but with the leg work involved is it worth my time? hhuumm something to think about......

......opinions anyone?
 
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for $1000 the process isn't worth your time, I picked up a CBR 1kRR in 09. The border didn't care about the recall clearance, but the RIV did. Fortuantely for honda's you can just punch the VIN into their website. The CBR was only 3 hours over the border, so it was worthwhile, but if your clocking big miles, you need to really determine if its worth it. In this case, there was a $4000 difference.

Here is my story of importing for the RR
 
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I'm very tempted to purchase a 2011 Monster 796 from a private seller in the US

The bike is about $9000, unmodified with less than 500km

I just got quoted on a new bike by a local toronto dealer
MSRP$ 11,695.00
Freight$ 475.00
PDI$ 297.00
Admin$ 99.00

Pre Tax Total$ 12,566.00
Grand Total$ 14,199.58


I would probably have to fly down and ride it back. 14 hour ride...

So, the total cost to me would be
$9000 (bike) + $1170 (HST) + $310 (1-way plane ticket) + $200 (RIV Fee) = $10680 + (my time)

I may have to pay ducati for a $500 recall clearance letter as well, which I'm looking to get around online.

I know, i'm comparing a used 2011 to a new 2013, but I've been searching kijiji for a while and have yet to see a low km, unmodded, black 796 at a reasonable price or even at all...

Thoughts or any costs I've missed?
 
I'm very tempted to purchase a 2011 Monster 796 from a private seller in the US

The bike is about $9000, unmodified with less than 500km

I just got quoted on a new bike by a local toronto dealer
MSRP$ 11,695.00
Freight$ 475.00
PDI$ 297.00
Admin$ 99.00

Pre Tax Total$ 12,566.00
Grand Total$ 14,199.58


I would probably have to fly down and ride it back. 14 hour ride...

So, the total cost to me would be
$9000 (bike) + $1170 (HST) + $310 (1-way plane ticket) + $200 (RIV Fee) = $10680 + (my time)

I may have to pay ducati for a $500 recall clearance letter as well, which I'm looking to get around online.

I know, i'm comparing a used 2011 to a new 2013, but I've been searching kijiji for a while and have yet to see a low km, unmodded, black 796 at a reasonable price or even at all...

Thoughts or any costs I've missed?

Not sure how it works riding an unlicensed bike back. Guess you could get a temporary plate from whatever state you buy it, don't know if you can cross the border or even the state with a temp. plate. Something to look into. Other option of course would be to rent/borrow a pickup to bring it back. Have to add gas/rental costs to your calculation then.

Personally, I wouldn't bother. I'm sure you can find a new '12 on clearance from GP or another Ducati dealer. Did a quick search on the trader and GP has a '12 1100 for $11750 w/ 4k km on it. That price already includes freight/pdi and I'm sure you can bargain $500-1000 off that price.
 
...I'm treating this as a searchable resource for all of those interested...

I'm very tempted to purchase a 2011 Monster 796 from a private seller in the US

...

I would probably have to fly down and ride it back. 14 hour ride...

...

So, the total cost to me would be
$10680 + (my time)

... + $500, because ...

I may have to pay ducati for a $500 recall clearance letter as well, which I'm looking to get around online.

Thoughts or any costs I've missed?

In my opinion, this is really a bad idea. First of all, you will not be able to ride the bike back (EDIT : strike that.. it might be possible to obtain insurance and a temp plate for the ride back). If you fly down and determine that the bike is in the *exact* condition as stated by the seller, you'll need to ensure you can pay the seller (preferably cash, as they're not big fans of bank drafts by Canadian banks), and TOW the bike to the border. And of course, you've already provided US customs three days notice (hint hint) that you'll likely be importing said VIN across. They'll need to have it on record and sanction the import (phone call or fax confirmation). You'll also need to confirm with Ducati what recall actions need to be performed on the bike prior to being deemed admissible for licensing in Canada. But that's easy, as you've already jumped all the other hurdles.

I don't mean to discourage you, but for that price you should really look for a local deal. I've gone through the process and imported a bike for my wife, and frankly it's not worth it unless :

- you can travel quickly to view the bike and confirm it's in a condition you're willing to accept
- cannot get a similar bike for anything remotely close ($1500-2000) locally, and
- ensure that the recall procedures have already been performed.

That being said, if it really is a good deal talk to Ken Livingstone at GP Bikes. You'll need to deal with Ken if you want to have the recall performed here in Toronto. He's a stand up guy and an outstanding mechanic. I wouldn't trust anyone else... with the exception of Sandy at Pro6 (unfortunately he doesn't wrench anymore), or Zaid at Z1 Cycle (awsome guy, supports the sport and the old bastid managed to run a 1:27 at mosport last year, which counts for something). Everyone else would just be stroking your ego (and your wallet).
 
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...I'm treating this as a searchable resource for all of those interested...



In my opinion, this is really a bad idea. First of all, you will not be able to ride the bike back. If you fly down and determine that the bike is in the *exact* condition as stated by the seller, you'll need to ensure you can pay the seller (preferably cash, as they're not big fans of bank drafts by Canadian banks), and TOW the bike to the border. And of course, you've already provided US customs three days notice (hint hint) that you'll likely be importing said VIN across. They'll need to have it on record and sanction the import (phone call or fax confirmation). You'll also need to confirm with Ducati what recall actions need to be performed on the bike prior to being deemed admission for licensing in Canada. But that's easy, as you've already jumped all the other hurdles.

I don't mean to discourage you, but for that price you should really look for a local deal. I've gone through the process and imported a bike for my wife, and frankly it's not worth it unless :

- you can travel quickly to view the bike and confirm it's in a condition you're willing to accept
- cannot get a similar bike for anything remotely close ($1500-2000) locally, and
- ensure that the recall procedures have already been performed.

That being said, if it really is a good deal talk to Ken Livingstone at GP Bikes. You'll need to deal with Ken if you want to have the recall performed here in Toronto. He's a stand up guy and an outstanding mechanic. I wouldn't trust anyone else... with the exception of Sandy at Pro6 (unfortunately he doesn't wrench anymore), or Zaid at Z1 Cycle (awsome guy, supports the sport and the old bastid managed to run a 1:27 at mosport last year, which counts for something). Everyone else would just be stroking your ego (and your wallet).

Where did you hear that you cannot ride a us bike back? All it requires is a call to your insurance and a temp plate from the state you get it in. Many have done it this way.

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Where did you hear that you cannot ride a us bike back? All it requires is a call to your insurance and a temp plate from the state you get it in. Many have done it this way.

You could be right and there might be a way. When I tried to drive a friends car (US plates) from Seattle to Vancouver for a trip, Canadian Customs told me I would not be able to enter with the car. In fact the customs officer suggested I drive back and find a rental company just over the border that would offer a rental car with Canadian plates. Real pain, but that was a few years back (1997). It might be much easier now. I'll edit my post.
 
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I'm very tempted to purchase a 2011 Monster 796 from a private seller in the US

The bike is about $9000, unmodified with less than 500km

I just got quoted on a new bike by a local toronto dealer
MSRP$ 11,695.00
Freight$ 475.00
PDI$ 297.00
Admin$ 99.00

Pre Tax Total$ 12,566.00
Grand Total$ 14,199.58


I would probably have to fly down and ride it back. 14 hour ride...

So, the total cost to me would be
$9000 (bike) + $1170 (HST) + $310 (1-way plane ticket) + $200 (RIV Fee) = $10680 + (my time)

I may have to pay ducati for a $500 recall clearance letter as well, which I'm looking to get around online.

I know, i'm comparing a used 2011 to a new 2013, but I've been searching kijiji for a while and have yet to see a low km, unmodded, black 796 at a reasonable price or even at all...

Thoughts or any costs I've missed?

Just remembered this thread. Posting here for all the 'nay' sayers. :p

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...Motorcycle-into-Ontario&p=1975807#post1975807
 

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