Yes I do and no you dont...now go on and grow an ironic moustache while wearing a plaid shirt
Aprillia in rough waters
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Yes I do and no you dont...now go on and grow an ironic moustache while wearing a plaid shirt
That explains why I'm such a badass
Exception noted ladyboy
That seems low unless you're including condos?
Condo's account for 30% of the amount to get to those numbers.
Source: http://www.torontorealestateboard.c...ket_updates/news2013/nr_market_watch_0913.htm
Who said anything about first homes? I'm talking prices in general.
On the drive further, IMHO, I think some folks go with 1hr commutes thinking the 100k they save on a house is better than burning through a car every 4-5yrs at 25k each and all that gas + hrs of there life. But 100k is a lot of money all at once.
+1 on the DUAL income to really get the home you want at a price you can afford, then DON"T SCREW IT UP. The only thing that would suck harder than making all the payments alone would be handing over 50% of the appreciated value of said house.
matt220
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Yup, and the fact that young people cannot afford to buy new vehicles is a whole different problem with direct ties to the job market, wages, inflation, real estate, etc...
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kruzuki
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If you're talking prices in general, then you have to consider the average, not just detached homes in 416. The reality of home ownership includes condos and semis these days. I'm sure a large number of members here who own homes do not live in the 416 because they can't afford it.
Since this discussion (as much as it got off track!) is about young people's ability to afford what we consider a benchmark (home ownership), as well as having the disposable income to own and insure a vehicle, then yes, we're talking about first homes.
Yup. I grew up in Scarborough but live in Oshawa because I can't afford to live in Toronto. I spend 2 hours a day commuting. It's not completely bad because it would still be that long on the TTC anyway if I still lived in Scarborough. However, the monthly fare from my station is $303 x 12 is $3,636. If I stayed where I am 10 years at that price, I have spent $36,360 just commuting into and out of the city over 10 years.
It just blows my mind that houses in the outer GTA are now approaching the prices of houses in TO. Why would anyone with a brain pay TO prices just to have a bigger back yard so that they can pay an extra 40k a decade commuting. Ridiculous.
You take transit from Oshawa? That must suck.
I live in Toronto and work at Pearson. I spend about 1.5 hrs commuting by car (30 min to work in the morning, 1 hr home in the afternoon). When I lived outside Guelph it was actually about the same (45 min each way, maybe a little more in the afternoon) because the traffic is actually faster going out of the city, which makes no sense since that's what most people are doing. Although I've noticed now when I do go that way it's gotten much worse in that direction ever since the new outlet mall opened in Milton.
I don't even take the 401 home in the afternoon any more since it's usually backed up to the airport and moving about 5 kph before I even get out of work.
No truer words have ever been spoken
back to Aprillia,
my drinking buddy just back from Italy (he's in the car business) explained last night, its not just europe thats suffering woe that is hurting Aprillia, the Australian continent ignores them and they dont do that well in the US. Its tough to be boutique.
my drinking buddy just back from Italy (he's in the car business) explained last night, its not just europe thats suffering woe that is hurting Aprillia, the Australian continent ignores them and they dont do that well in the US. Its tough to be boutique.
Roomie
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I think to some the whole I can have a jap ss for way less money with very similar performance discourages purchasing. Perhaps aprillia could try to make a reasonably priced sport bike and also have their flagship model. :dontknow:
Legalize lane splitting! While you're at it legalize all self entitled behaviour on Ontario roads. Screw everybody!
Legalize lane splitting! While you're at it legalize all self entitled behaviour on Ontario roads. Screw everybody!
Shaman
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List price. But I've seen them lower. I bought my RSV4 Factory ABS lower. The Factory is definitely a boutique bike... but the R1 was priced at something like $16799 in Ottawa the last time I looked at one (I've heard that Yamaha pushed prices down due to market pressure, though).
I have considered getting an Aprillia Tuono, but the lack of a dealer network in Toronto discouraged me.
When BMW Toronto announced support of Piaggio products, I was pleasantly surprised. I thought it was a great anchor spot. But just as soon as they began support of it, they the just as quickly stopped.
When BMW Toronto announced support of Piaggio products, I was pleasantly surprised. I thought it was a great anchor spot. But just as soon as they began support of it, they the just as quickly stopped.
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Dresden
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fyi - Most (if not all) exotic" cars made in Italy are sold out of country. This has been the case for a long time, far longer than the EU crisis. There is no comparison to be drawn between Lamborghini/Ferrari and Aprilla IMO. Apples to Oranges.
