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anyone using a speed radar/laser detector?

boyoboy

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do you know of ? (hearsay)

does it work well?
is it disguised as some other device?
what are the dangers of being caught?

not looking for a legal discussion so much, but...wonder.
this post is strictly for informational purposes.
 
do you know of ? (hearsay)

does it work well?
is it disguised as some other device?
what are the dangers of being caught?

not looking for a legal discussion so much, but...wonder.
this post is strictly for informational purposes.
Many moons ago I knew a guy who had a built in one need to make sure it is an undetectable unit had the head unit in the ashtray if pulled over shut it off and close the tray.
 
Waze helps for stationary cops but does nothing for rolling cops (which I am still surprised that they haven't implemented, they know the approximate speed of traffic, tagging a rolling cop would be simple).

I haven't used them personally, but afaik, you need to get one that is anti-detector-detector. Cops apparently pick up the cheap ones easily (and insurance hates you if you have that ticket, I think it counts as a major I was wrong, minor ticket). At least one cop in TO got around that limitation by flicking on the radar and watching for brake lights. If they were closely correlated, he would pull them over for a look.

If I was buying one, I would do remote display. Sensor in the grille or at the top of the windshield if installed well will look like factory radar cruise sensors. A few led's in a vent or somewhere to alert. Detector disabled in park, with the parking brake one and probably one other safety so it would be off when they were looking. On a bike, probably gut a scala box and put it in there. Led's at the side of the visor

Lidar is much harder for something to pick up (and it works at long range). By the time your detector alerts, it is all over unless you have either treated your vehicle (especially the lights) the absorb the required frequency or use an active jammer. Waze should get you most of the laser spots on well travelled roads.

Personally, if I want to get somewhere in a hurry, I look for a rabbit and let them get pretty far ahead (they need to be far enough that a cop will light up and pull out before they pay attention to you). Normally, I keep them 30 seconds to a minute ahead so I see them often enough to know they are still there. They won't save you from a big speed trap with one person on the gun and a ton of cars for the stops but I rarely see those in Canada. Nothing will save you from the chopper/plane if you are really cooking and get their attention. Prior to 172, I figure I did >10,000 km in Ontario above 172 eligible speeds. After 172, only a few seconds here or there but not often at those speeds. Cost to reward is just too horrendous for me. I'm not running, that moves the odds even further away from my side.

My worst almost ticket was just prior to 172 when I passed a cop at 165 in a 50 on a Honda demo ride. We came out of a corner and opened them up a bit north of Guelph (2-1000RR, 2-600RR and a VFR). He was headed the other way and didn't bother turning (thankfully). A detector wouldn't have helped me. It wouldn't have been on that bike and if it was helmet mount it wouldn't have seen around the corner. By the time it went off, he would have had me.
 
 
I always thought it would be fun if you could somehow send out radar at them. Don't jam it speed it up. The gun reads 330 kph in a 50 try making that stand up in court. Every ticket they gave out is now suspect from the "faulty" gun.
 
Bel tronics was bought out by passport and they make the only non detectable units. I have had one for years, use it in the USA.
sti driver now escort 360

 
I used to use a Beltronics STi Driver, which saved me many times, but it started getting too many false alarms with all these radar blind spot detectors on the new cars, so I stopped using it. I hear the new Valentine and the Escort Redline 360 solve that.

The other problem today is the police using instant-on radar. That means it's hard to detect them unless they point their radar gun at someone before they point it at you. The savvy OPP officer, aware that people have detectors, will sit at the side of the road and wait until they see an obvious speeder, then shoot. You have no protection from this unless you're using an app like WAZE on your phone.
 
Never had such a thing. The best "rabbit" that I had was on I90 through NY and PA back in the 55 mph era. They obviously had a detector. Passed me doing 85 mph. I followed some distance back. Car slowed to 60 mph...mile later there's the cop. Back up to 85 mph. Happened 3 or 4 times.

Most tickets can be avoided by a combination of behaving sensibly and thinking like a cop: if I were in the area and looking to write some tickets, where would I sit?
 
i'm glad I got all my speeding out of my system in my younger years. I was a regular 150+ cruiser on the highways. I also used to drive a Lincoln sedan (great highway cruiser, lousy in the corners) for a Limo company and used to get people to the airport and back in record time. Still astonished that I didn't get more tickets despite several close calls. only got caught once, when coming back from the Indy 500 race and on my way home, on the 401 near chatham-kent in the dark of night doing 170+ and got pulled by a cop driving an unmarked Lumina parked under a bridge ($300 ticket and a slap on the wrist, I remember he said, "don't take this to court, or I will have your license taken away). Never got caught on the bike, sped quite a bit with that. Lucky I guess.

Now with speeding on par with child molestation in the public eye and police, I don't bother anymore.
 
I once had a rabbit who let me on a chase in Mississippi doing about 190 in a Mitsubishi something or other...those things are everywhere down there. My pool old Chevy Beretta (with the 2.8, not even the 3.1, that was a few years later) ran out of oomph at around 180. Had a hard time keeping up with him even with my foot hard to the floor, but thankfully he was slowing down occasionally to wait for people to move over and I'd gain some distance again to keep him just comfortably in sight.

My wife had fell asleep in the passenger seat during this whole episode. When we stopped about an hour later after I'd blown through an amazing amount of gas in a short period of time (and covered an also quite surprising distance) I convinced her we'd been driving for close to 2 hours even though we'd only left Jackson MS (and were new well into Alabama) only 45 minutes or so earlier. Yay for wifes who fall asleep sometimes 5 minutes after sitting in the passenger seat. :LOL:
 

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