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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Just did a long drive down I75. Saw 3 teslas and 1 Stang in 2500km. I see 50 Teslas on my morning drive in Markham.

First time I saw a cyber truck in the wild. Sadly it was dead.

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Didn't even know Xiaomi made an EV.

12s full power loss during Nürburgring and still posted 6:46:87...

 
Another "full self driving" slaughter. Didn't even notice a deer standing in the road and mowed it down. Easy for radar to detect, really tough to spot optically. At least it wasn't a person this time.

 
Another "full self driving" slaughter. Didn't even notice a deer standing in the road and mowed it down. Easy for radar to detect, really tough to spot optically. At least it wasn't a person this time.

It was in hunting mode..... venison is expensive you know.
 
It was in hunting mode..... venison is expensive you know.
Sending it to the moon (I am assuming the 3 scooped it and launched it over the roof) does not make for a tasty snack. If they can catch a rocket, they should be able to properly target wildlife to get a humane kill without much bruising.
 
Tesla hits someone or something in 3….2…..1….

Anyone want to take bets on how many days it takes now that this has been released on the masses?

And here we go, 9 days later, first Tesla summon stupidity resulting in a crash.


Lucky nobody was standing between those two cars otherwise the story would much sadder.
 
How can this and FSD especially still be allowed as a feature on public roads? Is Musk greasing some palms at the NHTSA!?
 
How can this and FSD especially still be allowed as a feature on public roads? Is Musk greasing some palms at the NHTSA!?
My money is on politics. Politicians know that tariffs and screaming about scary china can't work forever. Tesla does innovate a lot and most of their R&D is domestic. I entirely agree that FSD and auto-summon should be confined to controlled testing areas at this point. Releasing them in the wild to kill people in the name of shortening the development cycle is completely unacceptable. If you call it beta but allow every entitled dickhead with a tesla to install and use it, that is a full roll-out and tesla deserves to be liable for the consequences. Beta should be rolled out to a small vetted pool of drivers (eg tesla employees).
 
My money is on politics. Politicians know that tariffs and screaming about scary china can't work forever. Tesla does innovate a lot and most of their R&D is domestic. I entirely agree that FSD and auto-summon should be confined to controlled testing areas at this point. Releasing them in the wild to kill people in the name of shortening the development cycle is completely unacceptable. If you call it beta but allow every entitled dickhead with a tesla to install and use it, that is a full roll-out and tesla deserves to be liable for the consequences. Beta should be rolled out to a small vetted pool of drivers (eg tesla employees).
My buddy just told me he tried summon with his Y on the weekend (Free FSD trial for the month).

The car got confused with all that was going on and shut down. People were honking at it so he walked over and took control.
 
The ultimate walk of shame.
Or the ultimate dbag walk. "I was too lazy to walk to my car so now all of you have to wait until I wander over and unblock the road".

I wonder how long before tesla cameras start getting the speed camera treatment. A tiny bit of paint or a sticker and the auto-douchebaggery is dead until intervention. I suspect (and hope) that you only need to disable one camera for all "self-driving" to be disabled.
 
I’d like to say that the “put a cone on the hood” thing that completely disables Waymo self driving cars would do the job, but knowing how Tesla’s operate it would probably just continue on, wait until it falls off, and then drive over it.

 
I’d like to say that the “put a cone on the hood” thing that completely disables Waymo self driving cars would do the job, but knowing how Tesla’s operate it would probably just continue on, wait until it falls off, and then drive over it.

'I don't like this, so I'm going to block it' seems like the message here.

I'd like to see the stats on those cars against real cars in terms of accidents / mile driven.

In addition, if 'a cone can stop it is dangerous' seems like it should be 'if a cone is on the hood it sees a hazard' and the car stops. Justifiably so.
 
I'd like to see the stats on those cars against real cars in terms of accidents / mile driven.
That's an interesting question. Sadly the stats are horribly gamed by the manufacturers. They control access to the data as well as skew logic to make stats look better. Tesla for instance talks about how awesome Autopilot is and how far they travel between autopilot incidents but they conveniently don't count manual interventions where the computer didn't even see a problem nor do they count many crashes as if the computer senses disaster it kicks off autopilot so technically it didn't crash while on autopilot. The fact that autopilot drove you off the cliff doesn't concern musk, the important fact is the driver was in control when it hit.

For vehicles you can buy, all of the current systems are a great secondary line of defense to help when a driver screws up and should improve stats when used that way. None of the current systems are remotely full self driving. Waymo seems to be in the lead but you can't buy one and they only function in limited territories that they have fully mapped and pre-vetted. I suspect there is a lot of coding to fix issues at specific intersections where the logic would otherwise choose poorly. Whether waymo can scale to everywhere remains a huge question.
 
'I don't like this, so I'm going to block it' seems like the message here.

I'd like to see the stats on those cars against real cars in terms of accidents / mile driven.

From what I've seen of those who are angry at the self driving cars thing (Mainly Waymo), it's that they're too cautious, and accordingly, slow, and often the cause of traffic issues.

I think that's not a bad thing compared to the "go fast and crash into other cars" alternative (*cough*, Tesla), but I understand how it can become frustrating to other people on the road when the computer can't do things that a car with a driver would have handled in a split second and moved on with their day.

A few examples of the driverless car issues....

Statistically they're insanely better than the average driver so far as accidents and even reportable issues.
 

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