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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

An interesting poi from an enthusiast and EV owner.




Btw, I think the heading is misleading. I don’t think it’s an argument against EV. I support EV and they have a solid place in the market.
 
At the turn of the 20th century there were like 100+ horseless carriage builders.....then there were four. EV at least is a somewhat easier entry not needing an ICE engine to engineer and build.
 
Including this here, because the only cars I read anything about regarding this issue are the Chevrolet Bolt, and the F150 Lightning...


EDIT: Guess I'll probably pass on the Mach-E or the Maverick...


I wonder if this applies in Canada.
It's not like it's an involuntary thing. If the driver wants to participate they allow the data to be shared to get the better rate. No different than current devices insurance companies use for the same thing now.
 
It's not like it's an involuntary thing. If the driver wants to participate they allow the data to be shared to get the better rate. No different than current devices insurance companies use for the same thing now.
Sort of. This sounds like it was implemented without being obvious to the consumer and used to increase rates. That is far different than me installing an OBD dongle that is guaranteed not to increase rates.
 
It's not like it's an involuntary thing. If the driver wants to participate they allow the data to be shared to get the better rate. No different than current devices insurance companies use for the same thing now.
From the articles / comments it appears that it's an 'opt out' type of thing, and you're effectively signed up without your full acknowledgement.

But we all know that very few people actually read the documents that they sign. I read them. But most don't.
 
From the articles / comments it appears that it's an 'opt out' type of thing, and you're effectively signed up without your full acknowledgement.

But we all know that very few people actually read the documents that they sign. I read them. But most don't.
And even for those that read them, LexisNexis Data Solutions was both not in the list of companies being granted access to data and even if it was, it is obscure enough that very few would make the connection to higher insurance. The list of companies getting access must be comprehensive. If you authorize company A and they want to sell that data to company B, either you should have to sign a new authorization or company B should have been on the original list. Any argument that the current implementation is above board has no chance of success in logic although it may succeed in law.
 
From the articles / comments it appears that it's an 'opt out' type of thing, and you're effectively signed up without your full acknowledgement.

But we all know that very few people actually read the documents that they sign. I read them. But most don't.

The only way you (legally) can/need to opt out of anything is if you voluntarily opt in to begin with. That has class action written all over it.
 
The only way you (legally) can/need to opt out of anything is if you voluntarily opt in to begin with. That has class action written all over it.
At least some opted in to data services. That got them access to things like remote unlock which many people would appreciate. The wording was intentionally crap to bury the selling of the data.
 
At least some opted in to data services. That got them access to things like remote unlock which many people would appreciate. The wording was intentionally crap to bury the selling of the data.

Still open to a class action suit. It has to be in plain sight in plain English.
 
Anyone driving a Hyundai / Kia EV there's a recall coming from this article. I have no issues with recalls as all manufacturers have them, so if this is the extent of any major issues...not a big deal IMO.

 
Ooof...tough break for those that were waiting in line to get their battery replaced...


Is there a way to confirm whether a battery was replaced under the program on a used Bolt?
 
Ooof...tough break for those that were waiting in line to get their battery replaced...


Is there a way to confirm whether a battery was replaced under the program on a used Bolt?

Get the VIN and have the dealer run it. By the way, this is not new, this started several months ago when GM established that there was not a problem with the US-built batteries. I think it has been discussed in this thread somewhere already.

If it has the diagnostic software installed less than 10 000 km ago, you will not be able to set the target charge level beyond 80%.
 
Get the VIN and have the dealer run it. By the way, this is not new, this started several months ago when GM established that there was not a problem with the US-built batteries. I think it has been discussed in this thread somewhere already.

If it has the diagnostic software installed less than 10 000 km ago, you will not be able to set the target charge level beyond 80%.
I'm really debating b/w a Bolt EV (not EUV) and a Maverick.

The Mach-E...too expensive unfortunately. Kona EV...not sure I trust the brand that much on a full EV yet.

Maverick - I think I like the thought of having a truck...but don't think it's actually the best for me...but I just LIKE it.
Bolt - Seems to check all of my boxes.
 
Ooof...tough break for those that were waiting in line to get their battery replaced...


Is there a way to confirm whether a battery was replaced under the program on a used Bolt?

They're still too busy fixing all the damaged Volts....

 
BuT hYdRoGeN iS tHe future

It is in countries that take it seriously


 
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It is in countries that take it seriously

Or alternatively, "in countries with no need to justify dumpster fires of government money". With enough subsidies, anything can be economical to the end user. That doesn't change the cost to produce the fuel.
 
Or alternatively, "in countries with no need to justify dumpster fires of government money". With enough subsidies, anything can be economical to the end user. That doesn't change the cost to produce the fuel.
I was gonna say, at parity with diesel, how many decades to break even?
 

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