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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

And ya'll wonder why I finally put Sunny on my blocklist. He's just 100% completely and totally incorrigible. There is no redeeming qualities in making any effort to hold a meaningful conversation.
 
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And ya'll wonder why I finally put Sunny on my blocklist. He's just 100% completely and totally incorrigible. There is no redeeming qualities inmaking any effort to hold a meaningful conversation.
I think if sunny and lucky got in an argument from their entrenched positions, we could possibly set the gtam thread length record with just two participants. Neither normally says anything bad enough to attract infractions so it would just keep expanding as fast as they felt like typing until one of them died
 
Tesla has admitted that their bumpers fall off.

 
Interesting concept. TL: DR $8500(minus green incentive) to powertrain swap a small fwd car from ice to ev 100 mile range. Conversion takes four hours. Currently France only.

Seems reasonable lots of good small cars out there that head to the scrapper because they need a transmission or engine.

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Good idea in theory. In Ontario? No. It would be nice to have a small vehicle to run errands. Commute is under 100km so that would be doable. Until the insurance companies relent and implement one policy for liability while driving a vehicle, the cost of adding another vehicle negates a good portion of any savings.
 
I think it’s a great idea. Have a small runner on electric only and keep the ICE car for longer distances. I’d just buy an old Civic for cheap and throw that thing in there.
 
I think it’s a great idea. Have a small runner on electric only and keep the ICE car for longer distances. I’d just buy an old Civic for cheap and throw that thing in there.
Yeah, it's a great solution for vehicles that were otherwise competent but have a weak drivetrain that kills them off.

It's too late for them now, but the hyo250 would have been a great platform as all of the engines died very early
 
TL: DR 2013 Leaf battery degraded (as designed) now at 80 km max range. Nissan killed 5500 usd battery replacement program in 2018 and market value replacement battery is 15000. Basically, all of that generation of leaf's will end up scrapped shortly as they are beyond economical repair.

Much worse lifespan and therefore environmental impact than any ICE car.

 
TL: DR 2013 Leaf battery degraded (as designed) now at 80 km max range. Nissan killed 5500 usd battery replacement program in 2018 and market value replacement battery is 15000. Basically, all of that generation of leaf's will end up scrapped shortly as they are beyond economical repair.

Much worse lifespan and therefore environmental impact than any ICE car.

Kind of a stupid look at me story lot of 3rd party places are doing these for much less for example https://www.evridesllc.com/
But Nissan did and still uses a crappy battery compared to GM or tesla but people still bought them
 
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website takes a bazillion years to load, ain't got patience for that, but I'm assuming that's a US source, and also, some people that are not "car people" are nervous about taking their car anywhere except the dealer for service.

The Nissan Leaf to this day lacks thermal management for the battery. That's bollocks. You'd think they would have learned that lesson by now.

Buy something else. Anything else.
 
How does the group feel about the VW e-Golf or Focus electric offerings? I haven't heard/read anything overly bad about them, but it's been a while.
 
website takes a bazillion years to load, ain't got patience for that, but I'm assuming that's a US source, and also, some people that are not "car people" are nervous about taking their car anywhere except the dealer for service.

The Nissan Leaf to this day lacks thermal management for the battery. That's bollocks. You'd think they would have learned that lesson by now.

Buy something else. Anything else.
Website is US. They do have Canada as a dropdown box if you are requesting service but I suspect that will just be a fishing expedition as in the US they have cities listed where they provide the service.
 
How does the group feel about the VW e-Golf or Focus electric offerings? I haven't heard/read anything overly bad about them, but it's been a while.

They are ok for what they are, but as with all other first-generation short-range EVs, they will have poor resale value now that EVs with significantly longer range are on the market for similar money. The eGolf is discontinued; it is being replaced (in Europe, where people actually buy cars in this market segment) with the ID3 which is already on sale. In our market, the ID4 which is being marketed as a CUV is soon to arrive. I assume the Focus is discontinued in North America along with the entire Focus car range. So ... both would only be available used.

Lease these ... don't buy. (Same goes for the Nissan Leaf.) Unless you find a used off-lease one that suits your needs so cheaply that you can't refuse, and you plan to drive it into the ground.
 
They are ok for what they are, but as with all other first-generation short-range EVs, they will have poor resale value now that EVs with significantly longer range are on the market for similar money. The eGolf is discontinued; it is being replaced (in Europe, where people actually buy cars in this market segment) with the ID3 which is already on sale. In our market, the ID4 which is being marketed as a CUV is soon to arrive. I assume the Focus is discontinued in North America along with the entire Focus car range. So ... both would only be available used.

Lease these ... don't buy. (Same goes for the Nissan Leaf.) Unless you find a used off-lease one that suits your needs so cheaply that you can't refuse, and you plan to drive it into the ground.
At sub 100 km range, I would probably be putting a trailer hitch on to mount a secure vented box to contain a generator (assuming that the car allows charging while driving). Obviously it wouldn't be magic, but every little bit helps when range gets that low (especially when you run fans/heaters/etc that absolutely crush the useable range). These crappy EV's seem to have batteries around 40 kWh, so a 3kW generator would add a lot to your city range as it can be cranking out the 3kW as you are stopped at lights or parked at your destination. Now that assumes that the car could charge at 3kW, I have a feeling that will be no mans land with easy charging at 1.5kW or 6 kW plus. A larger generator gets too heavy for my idea.
 
Seem like a small range for a big battery our volt is around 15kw and gets around 80kms per charge (60 in winter 90+ in summer) I have been driving it to work since covid started and haven't put gas in it yet 50 km round trip.
 
A series-hybrid, and particularly a home-grown one using a portable generator (which has poor efficiency), will almost certainly have poorer efficiency than the straight-gasoline version of the same vehicle.

The BMW i3 doesn't get fantastic mileage when operating in series-hybrid generator-running mode.

The Chevrolet Volt couples the engine mechanically when operating in gasoline-engine-running mode provided that you are driving fast enough for the transmission to allow it.
 
Seem like a small range for a big battery our volt is around 15kw and gets around 80kms per charge (60 in winter 90+ in summer) I have been driving it to work since covid started and haven't put gas in it yet 50 km round trip.
I think a lot of the problem is these were built as price point vehicles. They avoided things like active battery cooling which really hurts the efficiency and lifespan.
 
A series-hybrid, and particularly a home-grown one using a portable generator (which has poor efficiency), will almost certainly have poorer efficiency than the straight-gasoline version of the same vehicle.

The BMW i3 doesn't get fantastic mileage when operating in series-hybrid generator-running mode.

The Chevrolet Volt couples the engine mechanically when operating in gasoline-engine-running mode provided that you are driving fast enough for the transmission to allow it.
I know fuel efficiency would suck. It was more a winter beater idea. If you could buy a short-range leaf for close to scrap value, grab your track generator out of the garage, a little bit of welding and off you go. Cheap and cheerful ride.
 

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