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Any drummers here? Electric Drum Set

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I've been watching this chick lately on Tube and been thinking maybe I should get myself a new hobby (for winter months)...

Not actual drums but the Electric Set - would be fun to get some tech integrated with it...

Anybody here have Electric Drum set - hard to set up? fun or no fun? any feedback is appreciated..




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I've been watching this chick lately on Tube and been thinking maybe I should get myself a new hobby (for winter months)...

Not actual drums but the Electric Set - would be fun to get some tech integrated with it...

Anybody here have Electric Drum set - hard to set up? fun or no fun? any feedback is appreciated..




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She needs to learn how to mic a drum kit. Blech.

My small nephew has electric drums. Kid and parents are happy. More fun than just practicing with sticks but not incredibly annoying for parents.

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So those are apparently electric drums that look sort of like real drums. I still say blech to her setup. Presumably the kit will let you tune in software but if not, I would hope I could get each drum out individually so I can fix each one individually.
 
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I've been watching this chick lately on Tube and been thinking maybe I should get myself a new hobby (for winter months)...

Not actual drums but the Electric Set - would be fun to get some tech integrated with it...

Anybody here have Electric Drum set - hard to set up? fun or no fun? any feedback is appreciated..


Looks like an interesting hobby. Don't know about the drums, though.
 
Church has one. Depending on the model it can be a pain to get individual drums/cymbals correct for a concert. If you're just farting around with it, that isn't an issue.

Kid has a proper kit at home in the music room, and they have the muffler pads on for practicing, but he doesn't play much anymore.
Depending on what he's playing, it's not too loud.

If you're just starting out, you could get a pair of sticks, and a practice pad and play with that for a while.
 
I've been watching this chick lately on Tube and been thinking maybe I should get myself a new hobby (for winter months)...

Not actual drums but the Electric Set - would be fun to get some tech integrated with it...

Anybody here have Electric Drum set - hard to set up? fun or no fun? any feedback is appreciated..




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I have Roland V-Drums similar to the kit the girl is playing in the video above.

There are two major things to look for in eDrums. The first is the brain, which gives you the bank of preset kits and effects, as well as how much customization you can do to the patches (the sound of each drum).

The second major thing to look for is the drum "skin". The kit in the picture above uses rubber pads, which don't accurately reproduce the feel of real drum skins. Most times, there's either too much rebound on rubber pads or they deaden the hit too much. To get a more realistic feel, look for eDrum kits with mesh heads, like the higher-end Roland V-Drums. There are certain techniques like press rolls that are easier to reproduce on mesh heads.

Some eDrum kits allow you to upgrade the heads from rubber to mesh, so if budget is a concern, you can start off with cheap rubber pads, and slowly change out the heads. The snare drum probably the most important for feel and would be the first head you'd upgrade, and then you can upgrade the toms later.

Other small enhancements on the higher-end kits are multi-area sensors on the ride, cymbals and high-hat, which deliver a different sound depending on where you hit them. Also, some kits give you a "mute" feature which cuts the sound if you grab on to the cymbal with your hand, exactly the way real metal cymbals work. Also, the higher-end kits have sensors on the rim of the head, for "rim-shot" sounds.

After this, you can throw more money at the kit to make it look like a real drum set. You can buy shells that look like real drums, as well as real drum stands instead of the fold-out "laundry drying rack" that come with entry-level sets. You can also upgrade the kick pedal, get a double-kick pedal, etc. etc. etc. Just $$$$...

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I've been through many eDrum kits, from entry-level to top-of-the-line and can give you a good upgrade path.
 
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I have Roland V-Drums similar to the kit the girl is playing in the video above.

There are two major things to look for in eDrums. The first is the brain, which gives you the bank of preset kits and effects, as well as how much customization you can do to the patches (the sound of each drum).

The second major thing to look for is the drum "skin". The kit in the picture above uses rubber pads, which don't accurately reproduce the feel of real drum skins. Most times, there's either too much rebound on rubber pads or they deaden the hit too much. To get a more realistic feel, look for eDrum kits with mesh heads, like the higher-end Roland V-Drums. There are certain techniques like press rolls that are easier to reproduce on mesh heads.

Some eDrum kits allow you to upgrade the heads from rubber to mesh, so if budget is a concern, you can start off with cheap rubber pads, and slowly change out the heads. The snare drum probably the most important for feel and would be the first head you'd upgrade, and then you can upgrade the toms later.

Other small enhancements on the higher-end kits are multi-area sensors on the ride, cymbals and high-hat, which deliver a different sound depending on where you hit them. Also, some kits give you a "mute" feature which cuts the sound if you grab on to the cymbal with your hand, exactly the way real metal cymbals work. Also, the higher-end kits have sensors on the rim of the head, for "rim-shot" sounds.

After this, you can throw more money at the kit to make it look like a real drum set. You can buy shells that look like real drums, as well as real drum stands instead of the fold-out "laundry drying rack" that come with entry-level sets. You can also upgrade the kick pedal, get a double-kick pedal, etc. etc. etc. Just $$$$...

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I've been through many eDrum kits, from entry-level to top-of-the-line and can give you a good upgrade path.

Wow, good info!
I am curious how the sound actually reproduced - will I just plug HDMI into my TV receiver deck? - dont have much space infront of TV so speakers would be away.. Do you have a dedicated speakers set for this?
Also where the actual music background comes from? - does the ‘brain“ of the eDrum set reproduces it amongst ohter efects? Where that music would come from - computer or usb?

I think I will be watching a lot of Youtube videos on the subject only, preparing for the next winter shopping spree as there is no way I can find time for this during warm months, but the idea intrigues me a lot - never had any musical experience, have terrible voice and absolutely no ear for music - the great sense of ritmo is my only inroad into this whole music pasatiempo :)
 
I liked the electric set because I could pound away quietly 😆. MY parents got me a real set when we got a detached house. I had so much fun especially when we had karaoke parties!
 
It amazes me what humans are capable of.

I don’t know poo about drumming but she looks like she’s pretty good at it.
 
I am curious how the sound actually reproduced - will I just plug HDMI into my TV receiver deck? - dont have much space infront of TV so speakers would be away.. Do you have a dedicated speakers set for this?

A couple of ways: there is a headphone jack you can play through earphones or there is an RCA/phono jack that you can plug into an amplifier or speaker system. I'd recommend using a proper musician's amp since some home theater systems can't cope with the sharp dynamic range of musical instruments, especially a drum set.

Also where the actual music background comes from? - does the ‘brain“ of the eDrum set reproduces it amongst ohter efects? Where that music would come from - computer or usb?

Most of the brains have a USB slot where you can mix the audio from an mp3 file. Most also have an auxiliary input where you can pipe in music from your stereo or computer and play along to an external music source.
 
I had the Alexis Nitro ones already mentioned that I used to play with Rockband. Drums, for me at least, are basically impossible to play. Sure, I could play with Rockband because there was an easy option, and sure I did get a little better after a few months. But to actually play the drums? I don't think I could unless I was a kid that had the time to dedicate to it, and by that I mean hours and hours and hours a day.

If you actually want to play the drums, I would do what was already mentioned, and get a practice pad and sticks. If you actually can dedicate time to that on a consistent basis, then and only then would I say to spend the money on a kit.
 
If you actually want to play the drums, I would do what was already mentioned, and get a practice pad and sticks. If you actually can dedicate time to that on a consistent basis, then and only then would I say to spend the money on a kit.

A practice pad is great for developing stick control and doing snare exercises like alternating stick patterns (paradiddles, etc).

But a practice pad can never teach you four-limb independence, coordinating both your feet along with your arms. You need a full kit for that.

Those are two very different skill-sets.
 
I'll give you the same advice I give anyone looking to spend a packet on a new instrument to try: head to your local Long & McQuade and rent the closest equivalent they have first! They have the excellent mid-range Roland TD-17KVS for $100/mo., for example (mesh heads and a real kick pedal). If you stick with it for a bit, then either buy that one (they will let you buy anything they rent, with a discount depending on the rental income it's earned over the lifespan) or hunt around for a good deal on Kijiji/Craislist etc. Save buying new for when you have some time under your belt and a very clear idea of what you want and/or need. If you really want to buy, buy a used entry-level to mid-range kit for a good price so you can sell it on for minimal cost should things not work out.

The world is almost as full of dusty, unused musical instruments as it is of dusty, unused exercise gear. Good intentions collide with life and the fact that learning an instrument is really bloody hard and not much fun when you begin. The worst bit is the starting out bit, as you spend a lot more time being frustrated that your arms/fingers simply won't do what you want them to than you do just playing and having fun. Once you get over that hump and can start with the self-expression bit, then you'll go through phases of fast learning followed by frustrating plateaus where it feels like you will never get better. Like most things involving developing a skill, taking lessons with a decent teacher can really accelerate the process and prevent you going down some technique dead-ends.

On the technical side, you'll probably start out on e-drums playing into headphones, as the early days of drum practise are no fun for anyone to listen to. Otherwise, the advice given by @Lightcycle is excellent. Rubber skins are cheap, but don't have anywhere near the same feel as tensioned skins.

If you do move forward and looking well ahead, the other thing those endless YouTube cover videos (often with pretty girls for the views) miss is the huge part of being a musician that involves playing with other people. Having done the band thing for a while, the worst are the guys (almost always guitarists but sometimes drummers) who are absolute light-speed shredders in the bedroom, but can't react and give and take and improvise and move their time/feel with a group. Playing with them in a rhythm section is agony. If you stick with it long enough to get some basic chops, push through any self-doubt and find a way to play with others. You will improve a thousand times faster than playing along to songs in your basement, which can cover up a multitude of sins (usually in regards to feel and timing for drummers, as the recorded drumming disguises your own wack mess).

So those no-fun lectures aside, you should absolutely give it a shot. I did relatively late in life, and it was one of the best things I've ever done. Picking up a musical instrument has been shown to be one of the most effective ways to improve brain function, as it involves so many elements, from the physical coordination to the forward planning to the memorisation.

As background, I dabbled in drumming as a teen, but didn't have the self-discipline to get beyond the most basic boom-bap stuff and no potential band situation ever stuck around long. In my early 30s I decided I wanted to learn bass, and so picked up a copy of Rocksmith and a cheap Squier. I fumbled along there for a while, but then took some lessons and really started improving. I eventually started playing in bands, though never seriously and rarely in public. This got me past hammering 8ths and into finding the pocket with a drummer and figuring out serving the song beyond mimicking others in covers. Eventually, the band in our Anglican church lost their bassist, so I stepped in, despite contemporary Christian music not being my favourite. This was the best possible thing I could have done, as I had to learn to play 6-8 different songs every week, had to learn how to play off a chord chart, and above all, had to learn to keep up with a band leader who went where the spirit moved him. Playing in front of 50-100 people every Sunday also helps focus the mind, even if they are about as forgiving as an audience can be. When this all comes together and the band is playing freely together as a unit, it was about as fun as anything I've ever done, including cornering a motorcycle.
 

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