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Another Scam...Now on Autotrader

Is this a Fraud

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 88.2%

  • No

    Votes: 4 11.8%
  • Total voters
    34
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Give him/her a fake name and address. Make it a good one, a la Simpsons, like Seymore Butts. I played with someone like this for a long time, it was pretty amusing.
 
So... I'm still confused. At what point does the scammer get your money and not send you the goods? And what's so important about full name and full address here?

I'm not saying this isn't a scam, but I'm having difficulty understanding how this scam works. The scammer reiterates a few times that they will ship the goods first, then you pay after receiving bike. So I don't get it... is it a stolen bike?

What's the scam here? (Genuine question)
 
daveyflakes said:
What's the scam here? (Genuine question)
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They just ask for your name and e-mail and address and stuff just to get more information about you and to prepare fake documents with your official looking info on it. Eventually they will have their fake shipping/escrow service send you super official looking photos of the bike being loaded into a trailer, paperwork, documents, etc. They will ask you to wire the money from your bank account or through western union, etc., to this fake escrow service. They will say "Once you've received the bike (never happens) and you tell the escrow service it's in good condition and you are happy, they will release the money to me (the seller) so you are 100% protected and guaranteed. If you are not happy they will refund your money and ship the bike back to me." This "escrow" company is the scammer, they get your money, no way for you to get it back. Western Union has a no trace/refund policy.

-Jamie M.
 
the ones where the buyer is the scammer are either doing it to money launder, that is why they send you way more then you asked for and you send it back as clean money, they also manage to get your bank details this way. it could also be a fake cheque so they say ill send you $10000 for your $500 bike to cover shipping, you deposit the $10,000, it gets accepted by the bank at the teller level, you then send back the $9500 and your bike, your out $10,000 of real money as it was the banks funds and a bike, bank later denies the cheque and your sol.
or it will be a fake check, by the time the bank discovers it they have your bike.

these dont always work but for scammers of every 100 scams if several work then there ahead. this is one of many scams these people do. i dont know how people fall for it, but i guess when you see a $10,000 bike for $2500 you cant resist.
 
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toysareforboys said:
They just ask for your name and e-mail and address and stuff just to get more information about you and to prepare fake documents with your official looking info on it. Eventually they will have their fake shipping/escrow service send you super official looking photos of the bike being loaded into a trailer, paperwork, documents, etc. They will ask you to wire the money from your bank account or through western union, etc., to this fake escrow service. They will say "Once you've received the bike (never happens) and you tell the escrow service it's in good condition and you are happy, they will release the money to me (the seller) so you are 100% protected and guaranteed. If you are not happy they will refund your money and ship the bike back to me." This "escrow" company is the scammer, they get your money, no way for you to get it back. Western Union has a no trace/refund policy.

-Jamie M.
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Thanks Jamie. I guess in the end, the money does leave your hands before you see the product (bike in this case). So the scam here is really the shipping documents, and not really anything directly related to them having your name and address.

Thanks for the explanation!
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