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all weather vs winter

One thing I didn't mention...I always get the insurance company asking me if I'm putting on 'winter' tires for the season....not sure if they consider the same as 'all weather' tires in their quote/analysis.
For Desjardins, as long as it has the snowflake/mountain symbol, it is considered a winter tire and you will get the discount.
 
winter tires with all wheel drive is simply unstoppable. don't ask me how I know

one of my work vehicles has all weather tires. as expected, they are better than the all seasons in snow and ice, but not as good and confidence inspiring in winter conditions as real winter tires. still a little more slippage then I would like, but I notice the traction control comes on far less.


for majority of ontarions, all weather tires will do the trick, esp if you have awd.
 
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over the years I've tried all the major brands for winter tires. yokohama, michelin, goodyear, Bridgestone, hankook, pirelli. All were amazing in the snow as far as I can remember whether on cars or trucks.

The Hankooks surprised me the most, I was sceptical as I got a good deal on them through kijiji and was really interested in the aluminum rims they were attached to, and wasn't expecting much out of the tires and was prepared to replace them. Surprisingly, they were incredibly capable in the snow and lasted several seasons.


Currently running Blizzaks on one vehicle, and Hankooks on another.


you really can't go wrong with any of the major brands in my opinion.
 
Have generally had Hankooks and found them to be great for the price. Now have Michelin X-ice on the WRX so look forward to proper snowfall to test them out.
 
Have generally had Hankooks and found them to be great for the price. Now have Michelin X-ice on the WRX so look forward to proper snowfall to test them out.
You'll be unstoppable. On my seven or eight year old x-ice with much worse awd, the limiting factor in snow is visibility not traction.

Normally my bar is once you get to bumper deep you are nearing the end of progress and that works for most vehicles (big 4wd trucks have higher bumpers so they can deal with deeper snow). Last year I had a chance to go driving with tons of fresh powder on roads that had had no traffic yet. Powder was flowing up over the hood and windshield but there was no issue moving. If that was wet snow, obviously tires cant work miracles and I couldnt drive in snow that deep.
 
My choice would be the Hankook iPike line...on a lowered high power fwd car with a manual transmission I was unstoppable in the snow. Surprisingly, when I replaced those with Michelin x-ice 3 I could barely get the car moving in heavy snow. I really disliked them, didn't live up to the reputation imo. They were great on ice I'll give them that but I drive far more often on snow than ice so I sold them and got another set of iPikes.

Another surprise of a tire are the General Altimax...very good snow grip considering they are on the cheap end of the spectrum. Great option for those who want to save money or don't need a super aggressive snow tire.
 
My choice would be the Hankook iPike line...on a lowered high power fwd car with a manual transmission I was unstoppable in the snow. Surprisingly, when I replaced those with Michelin x-ice 3 I could barely get the car moving in heavy snow. I really disliked them, didn't live up to the reputation imo. They were great on ice I'll give them that but I drive far more often on snow than ice so I sold them and got another set of iPikes.

Another surprise of a tire are the General Altimax...very good snow grip considering they are on the cheap end of the spectrum. Great option for those who want to save money or don't need a super aggressive snow tire.
I had a lot of fun one winter with Xice on the front wheels and canadian tire snows on the rears (fwd). You could drift that thing in a drivethrough at 5 km/h and up to as fast as you dared and it would gracefully recover. Not ideally for ultimate handling but a hell of a lot of fun.
 
Another surprise of a tire are the General Altimax...very good snow grip considering they are on the cheap end of the spectrum. Great option for those who want to save money or don't need a super aggressive snow tire.

As I said earlier. hankooks really surprised me.

As for Generals. Went through a few sets and although they were "good". I found they never lasted long,. Caused a heavier steering feel, and wore rather quick.

I guess that's what a lower price point gets you....
 
As I said earlier. hankooks really surprised me.

As for Generals. Went through a few sets and although they were "good". I found they never lasted long,. Caused a heavier steering feel, and wore rather quick.

I guess that's what a lower price point gets you....

Yeah, I wouldn't use them on my personal car because I like a bit of performance even in the snow. But for the person who doesn't usually drive distance in snow(ie my dad), only short grocery runs etc. they are perfect especially for the price.
 
Frogot to say, found next to new blizzaks and oem 19" replica BMW rims on kijiji for $1600 cash for the x5. i practically ran to the guys house.
 
I purchased Cooper Discoverer M+S (at least I think that's the model, definitely Cooper brand though) in 2013 for my Elantra GT and they're still in great shape, even after driving down to FL and back last Christmas (we left with tons of snow from here down through about KY and hit more on the way back). We figured that road trip would do the tread in and I'd need new ones this season, but nope, tread is still good. Now mind you, I only drive 3km one way to work, and if school is cancelled, I don't have to go in. However, for the price (right around the $700 mark including steel rims) they've been a great investment. We cleaned up the rims and spray painted them this year, and they look good as new. :D
 
I've run four winter tires on every car I have owned since moving out of the GTA 30 years ago. More snow up this way, plus I ski and will drive through a blizzard to get to fresh powder! My father started running four studded winter tires on his car when we lived in Dryden way back in the mid-60's. He did this after being T-boned at an intersection when he was unable to stop on the hard-packed and snow covered roads with winter tires on just the rear wheels of his RWD car.

I ran Cooper Discoverer M+S tires year-round on my FWD Tribute for the last couple of years I owned it and they worked well for me. I now have a CX-3 AWD and picked up a set of Michelin X-Ice tires to fit the winter rims that came with the car. All I can say is WOW, does this car ever handle well in the snow. Not sure if it is the AWD, or the tires, or the combination of the two, but I'm never buying another car that doesn't have AWD!

By the way, used snow tires, with or without rims are a hot seller up this way. I can't tell you how many ads I've seen on various platforms selling sets and they certainly don't last long. Most are in the $300 to $500 range depending on wear, tire size and whether or not they have rims. I suppose not as many people are in the market for used snow tires in the GTA, so there are more difficult to sell.
 
By the way, used snow tires, with or without rims are a hot seller up this way. I can't tell you how many ads I've seen on various platforms selling sets and they certainly don't last long. Most are in the $300 to $500 range depending on wear, tire size and whether or not they have rims. I suppose not as many people are in the market for used snow tires in the GTA, so there are more difficult to sell.
I think they’re difficult to sell because unless they come off the same car, people aren’t 100% sure they’ll fit. I’ve learned that just because the bolt pattern works doesn’t mean the wheels will fit. Plus there’s always the concern of cracked rims, worn down tires and other unknowns if you’re not sure what to look for. Let’s face it most people don’t even know how to read their tire size, let alone change a tire. And some prefer to have everything done for them and are willing to pay for the service.
I’ve never seen so many ads for mobile tire change service as this year.
 
Good cond used winters on rims go fast in my area as well. My CX-7 has used 1yr old winters with rims on it that were $275 and then I sold my 5yr old winter tires for $400 in less than a week.
 
Winter tires are a god send when there is slush and ice. The GTA rarely has to deal with deep snow.

If you can stay home and avoid the Conga line, a parked car on any rubber will do just fine.

But, how many times have we seen vehicles of all kinds off the side of an off ramp or on ramp or can’t get up a slight incline or needs a push or whatever? Every year without fail.

So, you can save yourself a few bucks on winter tires and the hassle of swapping them out/storing them etc. And stay off the roads when the conditions aren’t favourable.

But those that commute and have no choice, I recommend getting the right rubber for the job and have peace of mind.

I used to struggle through winters in SW Ontario on all seasons 25 years ago because I knew how to drive for the conditions.

I know better now. I was younger, naive and very lucky.


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