Airport road

I was thinking this too which is why I hate doing group rides on 2-lane highways. Normally if I see oncoming vehicles I'll move over to the middle of the lane and if it's a truck over to the right tire tracks. Even cars do this.

When I am on a 2 lane, I ride in the left tire track always BUT when I see ANY other vehicle I move over to the right track.

RIP rider :(
 
When I am on a 2 lane, I ride in the left tire track always BUT when I see ANY other vehicle I move over to the right track.

RIP rider :(

Why do you ride in the "left tire track?" Why don't you ride in the centre of your lane? And please don't tell me it's because of the oil that's dropped by cars. For the life of me, and I have been riding a lot of years, I can't understand why anyone in their right mind, rides anywhere near the centre line. I've been behind riders who have been riding many years, and seen them approach the brow of a hill, in the "left tire track." That is just plain foolish.

In regards to this accident, if in fact the female rider was run over by a following bike, why was the idiot that close to her? On the other hand, I bet it looked "cool" right up to the point of the impact!
 
You sound pretty damn heartless there GMAN.

I believe the lady hit the car, and then returned to her original lane at which point was hit by the second lady.

But like I said, this is hearsay.


Why do you ride in the "left tire track?" Why don't you ride in the centre of your lane? And please don't tell me it's because of the oil that's dropped by cars. For the life of me, and I have been riding a lot of years, I can't understand why anyone in their right mind, rides anywhere near the centre line. I've been behind riders who have been riding many years, and seen them approach the brow of a hill, in the "left tire track." That is just plain foolish.

In regards to this accident, if in fact the female rider was run over by a following bike, why was the idiot that close to her? On the other hand, I bet it looked "cool" right up to the point of the impact!
 
Why do you ride in the "left tire track?" Why don't you ride in the centre of your lane? And please don't tell me it's because of the oil that's dropped by cars. For the life of me, and I have been riding a lot of years, I can't understand why anyone in their right mind, rides anywhere near the centre line. I've been behind riders who have been riding many years, and seen them approach the brow of a hill, in the "left tire track." That is just plain foolish.

In regards to this accident, if in fact the female rider was run over by a following bike, why was the idiot that close to her? On the other hand, I bet it looked "cool" right up to the point of the impact!

Like nobbie48 said, you never know what happened, in an impact with a motorcycle the direction of rider is unpredictable by the second rider. I ride wherever I could see the most and anticipate the most, and in all reality that's all Anyone can do. There is no reason to put this on the second rider's shoulder from the comfort of our keyboards. What's done is done and let her rest in peace, all I can hope for is the second rider get over this traumatizing experience.
 
Why do you ride in the "left tire track?" Why don't you ride in the centre of your lane? And please don't tell me it's because of the oil that's dropped by cars. For the life of me, and I have been riding a lot of years, I can't understand why anyone in their right mind, rides anywhere near the centre line. I've been behind riders who have been riding many years, and seen them approach the brow of a hill, in the "left tire track." That is just plain foolish.

In regards to this accident, if in fact the female rider was run over by a following bike, why was the idiot that close to her? On the other hand, I bet it looked "cool" right up to the point of the impact!

I'll ride the left tire tracks if there is a car in front of me that I need to get a better view of oncoming traffic and so the oncoming traffic can at least see me. But yeah I agree with you I mainly ride in the centre of the lane if there's no cars in front of me or if there's oncoming cars.
 
You people have forced me to "snap" again. If you need to ride in the "left tire track" to get a better few of oncoming traffic, you are too close to the vehicle in front of you, plain and simple. Same goes for letting them see you, back off, your reflexes aren't that good. As for staggering formation that's all well and good but you should never be that close together for it really to matter, you should be using the entire lane, as you pick the smoothest line through the curves. All these cruiser types riding side by side are just plain dumb, but generally they are just chugging along the road like a big plug slowing everyone else down. As far as this accident is concerned, unfortunately it would appear she was doing something she shouldn't have been, where it happened is on a flat stretch between 2 sweepers, and the fact that the suv involved has not been charged with anything would indicate that the bike rider was riding unsafely and probably made a poor decision. I'm going to guess that she wasn't that experienced a rider, I could be wrong, but it is pretty hard to mess up that badly on that section of Airport Road, but I wasn't there so maybe I've got it all wrong. Leave more room and get to live a bit longer, and forget about "blocking positions" who are you blocking, oncoming traffic? Really? Good luck.
 
Some good points on what track to use but in reality they are guidelines not laws. Understand what's going on, how it affects you and how it affects others and adjust accordingly.
 
All the schools teach the merrits of Lane Postioning.

What I hate is the way that everybody adhears to it like it's the law.
It is a general guidline for new riders.

You will seldom find me in the correct lane position.
I will take proper lane positioning if I am riding with other instructors or other riders.

Most of the time it is actually the wrong place to be.
And yes, I agree, this oil soaked mindset for the middle of the lane has always been wrong.
But it is taught and is valid to a point. Maybe it is good for beginners to avoid the middle of the lane.
 
In the city the middle is oil soaked. So I get that. But out in the country it really doesn't matter. You should use the whole lane to get as far away from cars as possible.
 
Some good points on what track to use but in reality they are guidelines not laws. Understand what's going on, how it affects you and how it affects others and adjust accordingly.

+1, in rush hour on don mills HOV lane I seldom take the left tire track, my visibility is improved drastically when riding in the center or even the right tire track. I get more space and time to react to abrupt lane changers coming into my lane or left turners that I otherwise can't see turning in stopped traffic.
 
On the DVP where is the HOV lane?
On the left or on the right?

+1, in rush hour on don mills HOV lane I seldom take the left tire track, my visibility is improved drastically when riding in the center or even the right tire track. I get more space and time to react to abrupt lane changers coming into my lane or left turners that I otherwise can't see turning in stopped traffic.
 
Regarding tire tracks, in the city I believe you need to own th whole lane you are in. The other day while I was in the left tire track in the right lane I do a quick mirror check and some ******* is stranding to pass me on my right! I had nowhere to go to the left because traffic was to heavy btw was doing the speed limit. This taught me a big lesson. Just like on my bicycle who need to own your lane!
 
the driver is being an a**. Next time some driver decides to pass you in your lane on your right slap his window at the next stop. I condone punching his mirrors just saying
 
the driver is being an a**. Next time some driver decides to pass you in your lane on your right slap his window at the next stop. I condone punching his mirrors just saying

When I first started riding some jerk passed another car by coming into my lane. It freaked me out. Then he did it to a big dude down the road ahead of me on a cruiser. The dude on the cruiser proceeded to hammer fist the drivers mirror right off. I watch the mirror bounce past me, I turned around and went home.

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