Griffin
Well-known member
I'm another one. I think there are lots of folks that get their licence that can't really control their vehicles. Same goes for car and truck licences.
A sobering experience.
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I'm another one. I think there are lots of folks that get their licence that can't really control their vehicles. Same goes for car and truck licences.
yea....99% of the ppl will end up passing their G2...and a lot of those ppl should not be on the road. M2/M is better though cuz a lot of those ppl take the MSF course and realizes that bikes arent for them and bail out the people that do pass though are some what competent at least haha.
Don't let it freak you out. I took the course at Sheridan back in 2006. Grabbed the front brake around a turn, got taken away in an ambulance with a broken arm and thumb (opposite limbs). I vowed never to ride again. Fast forward to 2009: I took the course again, met my fiancé there and am now on my 2nd bike, incident free. As dumb as it sounds I did learn a lot from that fall and was glad that it didn't happen on the open road.
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Bigevildoer
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If you're anywhere near Kitchener - go to the Conestoga College parking lots beside the sports complex. All the lines are painted on the asphalt.
Cloud Strife
Active member
+1!
Agreed... but this was a question brought up in training....
Q: What do you do if you have a student who you are sure they shouldn't be riding or are far from ready for it and they pass the M1x test?
A: They passed. All you can do is suggest they get more practice while handing over the certificate and envelope.
I know a woman who broke her ankle by walking and turning a corner funny. After she healed, she continued to walk but now with the knowledge to not turn a corner in a funny way. Life is full of risks. The best thing you can do is live and learn or you'll spend your life afraid of getting out of bed.
Lino should've used the skills the instructors taught him and used his reasoning to overcome his fear. Let me tell you about another story. I was following a friend and we were getting into the twisties and I was getting impatient because he was going slower than I wanted so I hit the gas and pass him before the next twisty. I start leaning into the corner with a big relieved grin on my face when I realize it's the inside of a hairpin turn which made it even tighter. I had a split decision to make in 0.00002 seconds:
Lino should've used the skills the instructors taught him and used his reasoning to overcome his fear. Let me tell you about another story. I was following a friend and we were getting into the twisties and I was getting impatient because he was going slower than I wanted so I hit the gas and pass him before the next twisty. I start leaning into the corner with a big relieved grin on my face when I realize it's the inside of a hairpin turn which made it even tighter. I had a split decision to make in 0.00002 seconds:
- Grab the brakes, wash out the front wheel and crash into the guardrail
- Straighten up and hit the brakes but go into the on coming lanes and hope nobody will be there
- Against all my natural instincts to lean and pray
I sometimes feel that way, but at the end of the day, if that student passes the Provincial Governments minimum requirements for the Ministry of Transport Motorcycle Operator Skills Test what recourse do you have except to caution them to practice and get as much seat time as possible as you hand over their envelope? As a private individual you can't fail them based on a personal opinion.
How about watching a student that failed the test the previous weekend ride in on a motorcycle the following weekend for their retest? You wonder when they suddenly developed the ability to ride confidently in traffic.
In the few weekends I have under my belt. I have already seen how crippling even the concept of the test can be to the students. Get one student who drops a bike which the fear crippled student witness and next thing you know they are taking the test another day.
agconor
Member
WE had a similar incident at Centennial last weekend. But it was on the stopping on a curve part of the test. Luckily the guy didn't bail but it was close. He panicked and nailed both brakes and skidded out and put a leg down. I thought it could have snapped but he was ok. It was also sobering. But, I just got a bike and can't wait to ride.
Araqiels
Well-known member
Contrary to what they're all saying, be weary, and very afraid. All of this happens on the road, as easily as it happens on a training course. If you're not cautious, alert, concerned, and afraid of making mistakes, then riding a motorcycle isn't for you.
Most of the people who tell you not to worry, have probably took falls before. I haven't, and I'm telling you, always know what you're doing, or don't do it at all.
Most of the people who tell you not to worry, have probably took falls before. I haven't, and I'm telling you, always know what you're doing, or don't do it at all.
