Dirty Frank
Well-known member
Looking back on the history of the 407 its gotta be the most expensive asphalt in the GTA.
The taxpayers have endured being screwed over paying for it over and over so many times that boggles the mind.
407 tolls, a big issue?
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The taxpayers have endured being screwed over paying for it over and over so many times that boggles the mind.
*asphalt
From cons. Ndp is out of touch enough to promise for the entire length. I havent kept track of libs plan.
Ontario election: Parties promise to cut Highway 407 tolls but disagree on where | Globalnews.ca
On Wednesday, Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford was in Durham Region to announce his commitment to removing tolls from the public portion of Highway 407.
globalnews.ca
Any of them that refer to "removing tolls" off the private portion are either morons or intentionally obtuse. Nothing is getting removed. The bill is being transferred from private to public. If that goes through, look for a huge increase in "trucks" being used to commute as vehicle payment is less than 407 bill.Ontario election: Parties promise to cut Highway 407 tolls but disagree on where | Globalnews.ca
On Wednesday, Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford was in Durham Region to announce his commitment to removing tolls from the public portion of Highway 407.
Think about it, surge pricing but for the 407
When it opened it was free for a short while and very busy. Then they started charging and it was deserted. Now they're working the sweet spot.
The 407 has been a political football since it's inception. It was originally sold to pay down a hydro bond... that should have been budgeted for and paid out of general coffers... but wasn't. There's some good politicing. The sale was reported as a victory, to me it showed how bad the government in Ontario works... or in FACT: how it DOESN'T work.
... and now there is talk of buying it back, using provincial funds. The 407 serves a small number of Ontarian s (comparatively) and IMO that money could be better spent on other stuff like providing doctors, hospitals or public transit, providing for more Ontarians than a highway through Hogtown (this from a guy that saw his house value increase by 10-15% with the extension of the 407... I would rather have decent GO transit service thanks)
Surge pricing already exists on the 407 (unless I misunderstood your point).
On-peak and off-peak rates are considerably different.
sburns
Well-known member
Oh I kinda understand the issues. But like @GreyGhost points out it's not very realistic. I feel this is just political PR stunt to get eyes on which ever party is yelling a bit louder so the general public will notice them, in the end they will do nothing, but hey thanks for the vote, cya..
We go to the polls in 20 days. They haven't even started with the retarded promises yet (Come on, free unicorn!).
Oh i'm talking about something more dynamic instead of having it on a schedule.
Based on entries on the 407 the rates increases or decreases. Rate goes up when you first get on with a sign and website showing live what the rate is. If you're at 0% occupation you pay the cheapest rate to get more people to use it. If you have 80% occupation, you rate goes up a bunch to decrease interest in using it as it's nearing capacity.
If that makes any sense lol
Makes sense. It changes so often you would need signage a few kms away before the on-ramps.
What happens if you're on it, and then the $/km changes mid-ride?
I agree in principal, but I think it would get very messy and can easily be mucked around with.
oh once you get recorded at the on-ramp, youre locked in at that rate until you get off.
i mean it's still a mileage rate in the end...
